Next battle, mandatory AIDs tests

[nightowl]

This seem so rediculous to someone like me, that's been with the same man for 29 years, who gave up on sexual relations 15 years ago due mainly to taking high blood pressure medicine that big pharma pushes on people. Why should someone be tested if they have no possibility of contacting the disease??.....so they can make sure you do contact it! I have a habit of first looking at the down side of things, I know, but everytime I look at the pictures of these people with test swabs in their mouths I think how convenient it would be to spread this disease throughout the world this way. I think we need to fight this invasion of our privacy!

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14938109/

nightowl

[bifrost99]

There's a very simple solution to AIDS but the world would not accept it: monogamy.

Only one (opposite) sex partner, for life.

What's so difficult about that?

The Ten Commandments aren't there for nothing. Everything is cause and effect.

Then again, bad medicine always deals only with the effects without dealing with the cause. A sure recipe for failure.

As for the test, they have to push it to get more of our (or the government's) money.

Gerry

PS. Celibacy would work, too. But that I find TOO difficult? :wink:

[nightowl]

What will happen to the masses that they will no doubt decide are positive, whether they were in the beginning or not? Will they be forced into quarentine stations like prisoners? Kept away from their families? Who will care for their families? One thing for sure. When the government agencies say they want something like this, it's already been decided and is being prepared for. We will have no say in the matter unless people get on top of it and resist right now.

I agree with everything you say, bifrost99!

nightowl

[Lab Rat]

If you dig a little deeper, you might find that the swabs which are used would be the first step in obtaining DNA material. This material could then be genetically profiled. It could then be determined which genetic diseases that you would be susceptible. This information being nationalized could land in the wrong hands. Insurance companies that acquire this information would deny you insurance. Employers who obtain this information would deny you employment. Creditors would deny you credit or charge higher rates. Doctors would push prescription drugs even though no disease had presented itself. And on it would go.

[Mad Scientest]

Sounds like someone has just come up with another way to sell more pills.

If you don’t take them you will be in trouble and if you do take them they will probably kill you. But then maybe that is the idea.

[Janner]

Originally Posted by Lab Rat

If you dig a little deeper, you might find that the swabs which are used would be the first step in obtaining DNA material. This material could then be genetically profiled. It could then be determined which genetic diseases that you would be susceptible. This information being nationalized could land in the wrong hands. Insurance companies that acquire this information would deny you insurance. Employers who obtain this information would deny you employment. Creditors would deny you credit or charge higher rates. Doctors would push prescription drugs even though no disease had presented itself. And on it would go.

Very similar thing happening in Britain - The idea of keeping a DNA sample on everyone got voted out - so now everyone is invited to help medical science - much more friendly package - same result!

Half a million Britons set for DNA disease quest
http://reuters.myway.com/article/200...IOBANK-DC.html

Aug 21, 7:10 PM (ET)
By Ben Hirschler

LONDON (Reuters) - A project to collect DNA samples from half a million Britons to unpick the genetic basis of killer diseases including cancer got the go-ahead on Tuesday, marking the start of the world's biggest medical experiment.

A team of international scientific and medical experts said the success of a local three-month pilot phase, involving 3,800 participants around Manchester, meant the UK Biobank project could now be rolled out nationwide from the end of 2006.

Over the next four years, blood and urine samples will be collected from volunteers aged 40 to 69, to help scientists unravel the genetic foundations of common diseases, including cancer, heart disease, diabetes, dementia and joint problems.

"For decades to come, the UK Biobank resource should provide researchers around the world with vital insights into some of the most distressing diseases of middle and old age," principal investigator Professor Rory Collins said in a statement.

The mapping of the human genome in 2000 opened the door to the detailed analysis of genes but experts are still grappling to understand how they interact with lifestyle and environment to determine why some people become sick and others do not.

In the long term, scientists believe the project could improve prevention, diagnosis and treatment of diseases and help to explain why certain people react differently to medications.

The 61 million pound ($115.6 million) project will be funded by the British government, the Wellcome Trust medical research charity and other sources.

Some researchers have expressed concerns about the design, size and cost of the project, but Collins said he was confident it would produce valuable medical breakthroughs.

A total of around 10 million samples are expected to be collected from the half million volunteers. That genetic data will be cross-referenced against information about patients' subsequent health, obtained with their permission.

Researchers from around the world will be able to apply to UK Biobank for access to the resource but there will be strict security systems to protect participants' privacy.

Health Minister Andy Burnham said Britain was "leading the world" with the project, which would underpin the country's academic and industrial research capability.

No one organization or commercial body will have exclusive access to the data but pharmaceutical companies are expected to be able to use the results to help design new drugs and diagnostic tests.

[nightowl]

10 million samples from 1/2 a million people doesn't ring true. If they want to compare DNA why would they take 20 samples from the same person?
Volunteers?.......500,000?.......not likely. It's probably being done everywhere, secretly, everytime we have routine tests that our doctors prescribe, even in the U.S.

nightowl

[Xania]

That is only the Medical sampling. What about all the police DNA testing and data bases?

http://www.policeoracle.com/news_art...TESTING_39.htm

[Lab Rat]

Hi Xania,

The answer to your question is very simple. Don’t go to the location of a potential crime scene. If you do and your DNA is found, you should expect trouble. At the very least, you could be “detained” for questioning for up to 72 hours. At the worst, you could be charged, convicted and punished for the crime. Administration of DNA fingerprinting, as with all other manmade inventions, is not and will not be perfect. I must admit that many crimes can be correctly solved with it. However, a percentage of innocent people could be treated unjustly. Maybe it could be 1 in 20 or maybe 1 in 50 people. How would you like to be that one?

The police in this town are well known for being corrupt. They really don’t care how they solve a case. Just so long as they can accuse someone, they would be satisfied. This makes them look good. They would continue to receive their tax dollars, and they would be free to pursue their own criminal activities. Prosecutors and judges don’t seem to be much better. As long as they can prosecute and judge, tax dollars will flow into their pockets too. Who said crime doesn't pay?