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Old 11-14-2012, 05:58 PM
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I am Hyper thyroid and am very cold feeling, feet, arms, etc, my MD says I should not be able to get cold, should be feeling warm or hot so he has me on herbs (thyro-calm) to lower the thyroid and Armour to raise it...he says it's about all he can do, this is helping, not as cold as I was and if I miss just one day of the Armour, I can tell. My MD has ran several other blood test "looking for what is causing the hyper-thyroid", but all came back normal, I also have been taking some thyroid supplements, they are mainly minerals and iodine and potassium iodide...any other suggestions of how to re-balance or heal this?
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Consider adding ashwagandha to your daily regimen.

Adaptogens modulate the endocrine system to help you feel better – whether you’re up or you’re down. Adaptogens work with the endocrine system (hormones) to bring you back in balance. Ashwagandha is one such adaptogen. Some could take ashwagandha to support a sluggish thyroid but others could take it to support an overactive thyroid as well.

Ashwagandha has been shown to increase the amount of hormones secreted by the thyroid gland. Studies on this herb don’t show selectively that the herbal extracts cause the secretion of more T4 or T3, but both levels go up with the supplementation of high quality ashwagandha. www.altmedrev.com/publications/5/4/334.pdf

Ashwaganda also is effective for adrenal support. What this means is, one, that it is a true adaptogen, since most adaptogens are very good at supporting the adrenals, and, two, it confirms its ability to work with the entire endocrine / hormone system. It is not a complete cure for the adrenals or thyroid, but it helps to balance the causes, which is predominantly stress.

The whole herb has been used for thousands of years as a tonic herb which means you can take it for an extended period of time without side effects. Of course, if you want to be cautious, you can take ashwaganda for 1-2 months then take a break or switch to another adaptogen.

When I feel that I need it, I take 200-1200 milligrams per day.

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Ashwagandha is an herb that has been used for centuries in the practice of Ayurveda, a medical system practiced throughout India. It is purported to be an adaptogen, an all-purpose health tonic that boosts vitality, enhances sexual function and bolsters the immune system. Ashwagandha is not known to carry a risk of significant side effects, but adequate studies have not been conducted to completely confirm its safety.

Increased Thyroid Hormone

Langone Medical Center at New York University states that ashwagandha has been found to increase thyroid levels, thus should not be used by those with hyperthyroid conditions, such as Grave's disease. RxList further warns that ashwagandha's ability to increase the body's production of thyroid hormones, combined with increased thyroid hormone levels from prescription thyroid medications, could result in an overabundance of thyroid hormones in the body, thus increasing the side effects of that hormone.

Sedation

The calming properties of ashwagandha have long been viewed as an asset by proponents of Ayurvedic medicine. In patients being medically treated for anxiety or insomnia, however, drug interactions with prescription sedatives are a legitimate concern.
The Division of Nephrology at New York University's Department of Medicine has specifically cited ashwagandha as contraindicated for patients taking benzodiazepines, a pharmaceutical group of drugs which includes the brands Xanax, Ativan and Valium, among other sedatives.

Gastrointestinal Upset

Difficulty in digesting the crude powder form of pure ashwagandha has been blamed for gastrointestinal side effects in persons who had ingested large amounts of the herbal remedy. These side effects include abdominal heaviness, flatulence, vomiting and diarrhea.
References

New York University: Langone Medical Center: Ashwagandha
NYU Department of Medicine: Benzodiazepines
RxList: Ashwagandha Effectiveness, Safety and Drug Interactions
Holistic Herbalist: Ashwagandha Side Effects
Gale Encyclopedia of Alternative Medicine: Ashwaganda


http://www.livestrong.com/article/11...ts-ashwagandha
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Thanks jfh...would "raw thyroid grandular concentrate" also be helpful or worth a try?
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I never think of glandulars unless it is going to be temporary. My reasoning is that they can shut down the gland. When the gland "sees" that the body has enough or too much hormone, they will practically go to sleep. Yes, they will come back to regular strength after a while. I just prefer another way. Obviously, if there is a disease and the gland is just not productive, something has to be done. Armour is a natural med. If you are just testing to see what works, a glandular might be worth a try, but I'd personally prefer starting with herbals.

I thought cold hands/cold feet meant hypothyroid, not hyper. I believe that the cold appendages can very well mean adrenal fatigue. That's another reason to add ashwagandha. Help the adrenals and thyroid at the same time. Also add more vitamin C and a B complex. The top 2 nutrients for the adrenals are vitamin C and pantothenic acid (B5).
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I appreciate the info., I will try some ashwagandha.
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jfh, How do I conclude how much I need? If I don't take the Armour, I can feel it day to day and can tell, I have been taking the ashwagandha, 300 mg. twice daily (according to instructions), I don't feel much if any difference, should I stay on that for some time to work or do I need to take more until I feel a difference?
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Armour is a glandular. Not synthetic like Synthenol. So you should use it as instructed by your dr. I said that I don't like glandulars, but if I have a disease that is not responding to other things, I would use it.

You should stay with the ashwaganha for at least 2 months. It is not a replacement for thyroid medication. It will balance your hormones so that you will be able to cut back on the Armour and eventually remove it.

Lemon balm is an herb that will help to lower the levels of thyroid hormone. So lemon balm tea would be good for you.

There may be other causes of your overactive thyroid too. Did the doctor check for adrenal problems or pancreas? It can even be caused by food allergies. That's because the adrenals get very much involved with allergies and can cause problems for the thyroid. If it is as bad as you suggest, it would be good to visit specialists in the field, such as endocrinologist.

Check this out http://www.herbs2000.com/disorders/thyroid_over.htm
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I also have been taking some thyroid supplements, they are mainly minerals and iodine and potassium iodide...any other suggestions of how to re-balance or heal this?

When you say iodine and potassium iodide, you mean a balance of elemental iodine and KI?

Selenium is important with iodine. Try eating a few raw Brazil nut every day.
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