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I am a 33 yo female, mother of 4 and a wife. I am HIV positive for 13 years now. I've rarely been on HIV meds, only when I was pregnant so the babies would not be infected. I had a bad reaction to the meds once so I prefer not to take them. I was diagnosed with Hepatits C in 2007 (which I got rid of homeopathically), recently diagnosed with Toxoplasmosis, CMV, Hep A, some say Hep B (but I was vaccinated against it), LUPUS (same day as diagnosis of HIV, was told it was probably a false positive), Fibromyalgia, Rheumatoid Arthritis, Patella Femoral Degenerative Disorder, and that's the majority of it.

I have always been a fan of homeopathic remedies. When I was diagnosed with Hep C, a friend of my dad's gave me a copy of a publication of Immunity and HIV. In there were some things to do for the liver and other organs to stimulate them to heal themselves. I chose to do one where to take a whole lemon, cut into 4 pieces (rind and all), place in a blender with 8 oz. spring water or filtered water, and 1 T. cold pressed (must be cold pressed), extra virgin olive oil. Blend, strain (with cheese cloth) and drink. Do this once a day for a month or two. I did this along with Castor Oil packs on my liver. You take say a baby cloth diaper, saturate it in Castor Oil (I used cold pressed for this as well), place it over the liver, cover with saran wrap, place a heating pad on it for 1 hour. This should be done 2 to 3 times a week. I did this only twice. It can be done for other organs as well, and the thyroid gland. After a month of this, I was retested, as my doctor wanted to start me on Interferon treatments for it. Anyhow, my doctor called me from his cell phone excited, and he has never called me even once before this. He said to me, "I don't know what you did, but you got rid of it!" My viral load went from high, to undetectable, and has remained so for 4 years now.

About 2 years ago, my uncle told me about MMS. I looked it up, did some research and became very interested in it. He has been using it for about 3 years now I think. I wanted to do a self study, assisted by the VA for blood work, but that hasn't worked out so well due mainly to my laziness (depression). I have been putting it off, mainly because I end up running out of money before I decide to buy it (even though it's so cheap). My father ended up buying himself and me a kit with Molecula Silver. I started the HIV protocol 7 days ago. I started with 3 drops per hour. I accidentally kept putting in 4 drops so now I'm on that. I did 5 a few times, but got an awful headache. I am symtpom free (no nausea or diarrhea). I am doing 4 drops every hour for 8 hours a day for 3 weeks, according to Jim's protocol for HIV. He says that only MMS is needed. I'm wondering if it's enough since I have so many things wrong with me. I may start doing the baths here soon. I usually take a bath with my babies every evening and may incorporate it then, after some research into baths with tots and MMS.

I am just concerned if this protocol is enough for someone with all the things wrong as I have. I may add the Molecula Silver. It suggests being on MMS for a week or two first. It would be helpful to hear input from anyone else that has any of my illnesses and their responses to MMS.



Another thing I would think helpful, is if Jom could get those he treated for HIV to get viral load tests done. I know being in Africa, they may not have access to VL tests. I do not know my current VL or CD4 count. I will post my last tests and date as soon as I can get them again.

I also am aware of the FDA's crusade against MMS, and it makes me unpround to be an American. It's such a crock of BS and a clear attempt at forcing people the use Pharmacopia (my word) and to contribute to the death toll of Americans. If you read their "warning", MMS is dangerous and can kill people, etc. My uncle has been on it so long, and nothing but beneficial responses. No toxic "industrial bleach" effects, and also from the testimonies I have read, no reports of said "toxic" responses. Anything that the FDA, or if the news picks it up, puts out about MMS is pure propaganda.

I am eager to hear your responses!






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I forgot to mention that I was curious if I should try to increase my drops that I take evrey hour.

Also, I have been spotting/bleeding ever since I had my son September 20, 2009. I've had maybe a total of 2 weeks w/o, and that's pushing it. I thought maybe that could be attributed to Suboxone I take, as opiates cause disruptions to women's cycles. However, when I was on stronger opiates it caused me to not have any cycles vs. what is happening now. I know I need to go to the doctor about it, but I just don't get around to it. I will though. Just thought it might be worth mentioning.

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You should only increase your drops if you are tolerating them well, in other words, no diarrhea or vomiting or dizziness. You need to be in this for the long haul if you truly have all those sickenesses. So burning yourself out with increased dosages that are not well tolerated is not a good idea.

Now Jim seems to think that HIV will be taken care of by what you are doing now.. I have seen some good response to HIV with the old MMS protocol of 3 x a day but I never saw a cure. Guess thats why this new protocol has been implemented. We will be waiting to hear how you do.

Sometimes I wonder if the HIV in Africa is the same thing that we have here.

Oh, and you cured your hep c with naturopathy, not homeopathy. There is a big difference...but either way, good work!

If you are using MMS I don't know what you would need the silver for. MMS will kill all the same pathogens as silver. It seems redundant to me. But if the MMS fails you for what ever reason some of the silver solutions are very effective for a wide variety of propblems. If I decided to do silver for all the conditions that you have I would seek out a naturopath who gives silver by IV. It is proven to be more effective by IV, or perhaps some combination of IV and Oral.

I have no idea about the Suboxone. But I would think that a good check up from a gynecologist is in order to make sure all is well. You might want to look into iodine supplementation. Do a forum search here on iodine and you will find a lot of info. Female parts need a lot of iodine and most people are deficient.
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Old 08-19-2010, 05:46 PM
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Wow, thanks so much for all of your helpful advice/information. I wasn't aware that female parts needed iodine. I do remember hearing, and me and my uncle were discussing today that MMS depletes the body of iodine, and that I should look into that.

I was unsure of the Silver as that was my first time hearing about it, and I will probably save that for when needed instead of just adding it.SO I should then increase drops as tolerable? My thinking was that maybe 3/4 drops wasn't enough to permeate deep enough. I will try 5 drops per hour tomorrow and see how I fair. I did have some dizziness with the headache, and I am already prone to headaches.

Thank you for your correction on naturopathy vs. homeopathy. I am ignorant to the difference, and will look it up.

I did a bath tonight, after looking it up, with my kids (10 mo. old boy and 2 yr old girl). My boy has a diaper rash I am eager to see if it improves now, and so does my little girl. They are both prone to frequent rashes/yeast problems in the diaper area.

I also have a rash on my arm. I woke up with it 7 days ago, the day I started MMS (before starting MMS). I have had no improvement there, except after the bath. The raised rash has diminished and itching is completely gone immediately after getting into the bath. I would love to continue MMS soaks, but I'm afraid I'll run out of the 10% citric solution too fast if I do. I'll have to purchase some more so that I may.

Another reason for wanting to bathe in MMS is, I forgot to mention I have HSV1 and HPV. I currently have an outbreak of HSV1 that I've had for about 2 weeks now. Unusually long, and unusually bad. Usually when I do have an outbreak I have 1 spot, but this time I had about 5. My worst in years. This is another reason I think maybe my immune system isn't doing so well right now, along with the rash, and I had an allergic reaction 2 weeks ado that woke me at 5 am and sent me to the hospital. I felt as if I had to use the bathroom, but couldn't, and I broke out in a cold sweat with a prickly sensation. Then my hands and feet felt like they were on fire and my hands began to itch like crazy. By the time I got back to the bed and laid down, I felt like fire ants were biting me all over my hip area, and I felt bumps starting to break out in the same area. I became very worried and started having difficulty breathing, perhaps hyperventilating, and called the ambulance. The bumps turned into welps, and the doctors at the hospital said they were hives. They gave me steroids through IV. They couldn't tell me what I was having a reaction to, and sent me home with a steroid prescription. Also besides the rash on my left forearm, I started getting one on the palm of my right hand. That is gone as well now after the bath. In my life, I have never been allergic to anything (food, medicine, nature (only slightly to cats)).

When I first started MMS I used apple juice for the first 2 doses, without realizing it was loaded with vitamin C. I then switched to faucet water, but then I thought the chemicals that are added might cause the MMS to purify it, thereby lessening the dose I was getting. I switched to the only other thing I had, a bottle of spring water. Now that that is gone, today I thought it would be best if I treated my faucet water first with MMS and use that. So that is how I am taking it now.

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Old 08-20-2010, 08:40 AM
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Would you mind using the advanced feature when you post and set your setting so the print is the next size up? thanks

I would not worry too much about the mms getting weakened by using tap water. If you let your water sit is a jug over night the chlorine will evaporate out.

I had not heard that mms will chelate iodine out of the body and if it did I am sure Jim Humble would be talking about it. That is a new one to me, and I suspect that it is not correct or people would be all over that one by now. Iodine is so terribly essential, and we are depleted already. MMS will chelate out some toxic heavy metals though. Iodine itself will chelate out bromide, fluroide and chlorine from the body and some others as well.

For the HSV, the Lugol's iodine applied topically will help to dry the blisters up faster. Lysine in pill form is very helpful for herpes. take about 4 grams twice a day. they generally come in 500mg or 1 gm pills. a good place to shop for good prices on line is www.iherb.com and if you put this code in BAR967 you should get a discount on your first purchase. Stay away from corn products during a breakout as they may makeit worse.... and please be careful with the children, sharing baths etc when you have a breakout. Iodine supplementation should help you to build resistance as well as vitamin D3 supplementation. get Biotec brand from the same site I posted above. We have lots of info on this forum on D3. Do a search.

With all that you have been through you might want to look into doing an mms enema. this site will tell you how.. www.jimhumble.biz just to see if it moves the healing process along some. It is likely the best way to ablsorb mms as the mesenteric venous system will pick it up from there and take it right to the liver
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Hi, I thought I had set my size to 3... but will do, tks.

And thanks again for more good info

It;s much appreciated.
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So, I can't remember where I originally saw the thing about iodine, but here is what I just found.

http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1384957

and this:

http://curezone.org/forums/fmp.asp?i=1611748
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Hello, I found your post interesting and am rooting for your wellness of course, but was wondering what geno type of HCV that you had?
The hep.A is almost unheard of in this country, about 70% of the Hep C reported cases are the geno 1A type...
I know the methods of lemon/olive oil and heat packs, but also know the HCV too.

The MMS bath treatments are by far less effective than taking the MMS orally and with the means of an enema, which will help get it directly into the blood and the liver region..
I agree with Arrow, that you should only graduate in MMS doses only if you have no reactions... I've personally found that the activated 5 drop X 8 per day provided an over powering effect upon the virus... but everyone's system is different, so what works for one, may not be enough or too much for another.. feel your way along with it and by all means, keep a daily log book to look back to see what made noticeable changes...

You mentioned headaches with taking the MMS... that's a dead give away that you're killing the virus off...but not good to hear for what it does in polluting your system with toxins either... in the evening...when your mind is wired awake and you long to sleep normal again... you might consider taking a few capsules of L-Ornithine, as that quickly counters the effects of the ammonia that the virus leaves behind in your system, [ammonia in the blood hitting the brain wires the minds chemistry to stay awake]. It also helps much to relieve the headaches and remove toxic build up too.

Another thing with taking MMS, is to watch your "Antioxidants" very carefully, some of the stronger antioxidants has an accumulative effect and can stay in your system 24 to 48 hrs. after you've stopped taking them... {This was one of my primary mistakes that I had to learn.] Antioxidants and Oxidants tend to cancel out your hard efforts with the MMS protocols... So ya might consider watching the antioxidants in the foods that you eat, supplements & etc. for best results..

There are several worthy considerations with fighting a disease yourself, such as the oxidants verses antioxidants... each has an important roll to play and is needed; considerations of oxidation stress verses glutathione production to counter the stress responses... Also combating the viruses such as HIV and Hep. and others also.. trying to maintain the balance of the system for positive outcomes, and long enough to catch the new growth of vial releases from viral nesting..or to reach deep enough to even get to the hidden areas apart from the blood flow...

It is not all a simple under taking by any means.....and hopefully, the combined minds....[there are some bight informed minds here], the collective of information will hopefully open the door for even better protocols to be formulated...

Keeping positive emotions and attitude is 30% of the healing factor with fighting any disease...

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I have such a hard time with curezone trying to find and read stuff there. Their format is crazy to me.

scroll down on this page and you will find links to what we have on iodine. There is a learning curve to it. Notice we have over 20 posts with iodine in the titile. pages 1 and 2
http://www.google.com/custom?domains...ORID%3A1&hl=en
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Thank you for your responses I took a break yesterday. I was growing kind of tired of constantly chasing behind taking the MMS and remembering when it's been an hour yet. I also missed 4 doses the night before. I feel better having had a break, and resumed today. Started on 4 drops, and may try 5 tomorrow. We shall see.

I am going to try the enema. I have to wait for payday in September to try that tho. I do like the baths for the effects that I saw, it healed up the problems I was having almost overnight, but I am going to have to buy some more citric acid definitely, and I'm thinking of buying MMS in bulk. Who knows when the "powers that be" will succeed in banning it from the market. I will continue to keep this site updated as things arise, and look forward to the wealth of input from members of this site.
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Hello, I found your post interesting and am rooting for your wellness of course, but was wondering what geno type of HCV that you had?
The hep.A is almost unheard of in this country, about 70% of the Hep C reported cases are the geno 1A type...
I know the methods of lemon/olive oil and heat packs, but also know the HCV too.

The MMS bath treatments are by far less effective than taking the MMS orally and with the means of an enema, which will help get it directly into the blood and the liver region..
I agree with Arrow, that you should only graduate in MMS doses only if you have no reactions... I've personally found that the activated 5 drop X 8 per day provided an over powering effect upon the virus... but everyone's system is different, so what works for one, may not be enough or too much for another.. feel your way along with it and by all means, keep a daily log book to look back to see what made noticeable changes...

You mentioned headaches with taking the MMS... that's a dead give away that you're killing the virus off...but not good to hear for what it does in polluting your system with toxins either... in the evening...when your mind is wired awake and you long to sleep normal again... you might consider taking a few capsules of L-Ornithine, as that quickly counters the effects of the ammonia that the virus leaves behind in your system, [ammonia in the blood hitting the brain wires the minds chemistry to stay awake]. It also helps much to relieve the headaches and remove toxic build up too.

Another thing with taking MMS, is to watch your "Antioxidants" very carefully, some of the stronger antioxidants has an accumulative effect and can stay in your system 24 to 48 hrs. after you've stopped taking them... {This was one of my primary mistakes that I had to learn.] Antioxidants and Oxidants tend to cancel out your hard efforts with the MMS protocols... So ya might consider watching the antioxidants in the foods that you eat, supplements & etc. for best results..

There are several worthy considerations with fighting a disease yourself, such as the oxidants verses antioxidants... each has an important roll to play and is needed; considerations of oxidation stress verses glutathione production to counter the stress responses... Also combating the viruses such as HIV and Hep. and others also.. trying to maintain the balance of the system for positive outcomes, and long enough to catch the new growth of vial releases from viral nesting..or to reach deep enough to even get to the hidden areas apart from the blood flow...

It is not all a simple under taking by any means.....and hopefully, the combined minds....[there are some bight informed minds here], the collective of information will hopefully open the door for even better protocols to be formulated...

Keeping positive emotions and attitude is 30% of the healing factor with fighting any disease...
That's verry interesting, Hobo! Of course it makes sense. We've been trying to get in all the good antioxidant rich juices and I can understand how this might be counterproductive here.
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I am a 33 yo female, mother of 4 and a wife. I am HIV positive for 13 years now. I've rarely been on HIV meds, only when I was pregnant so the babies would not be infected. I had a bad reaction to the meds once so I prefer not to take them. I was diagnosed with Hepatits C in 2007 (which I got rid of homeopathically), recently diagnosed with Toxoplasmosis, CMV, Hep A, some say Hep B (but I was vaccinated against it), LUPUS (same day as diagnosis of HIV, was told it was probably a false positive), Fibromyalgia, Rheumatoid Arthritis, Patella Femoral Degenerative Disorder, and that's the majority of it.

I am eager to hear your responses!




The false positive was for so called 'HIV' and hepatitis C. You are smarter than you think for not taking the anti viral medications.
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