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I've been reading this forum and I have ben through the sam thing as you. Ct Scan Cipr, Bactrim ect. Prostatitus and Epididymitis. Did 30ppm of Ionic Colloidal Silver Water work for you and if so where did you buy it? and what dose did you take? I am now looking into some herbs like Oil of oregano, but I am taking 20ppm of Ionic Colloidal Silver water from peaceful Mountain , but I was still taking the Bactrim and eating things like breads and pastas that are feeding the Fungus. I just wanted to see what worked for you, because I want to fix this like in 2 weeks or something. Please respond or help me if you can, this is just terrible.
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Old 12-12-2009, 10:58 PM
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SmokyJoe,

It likely is candida and eating carbs can make it worse. Candida loves sugar and carbs converts to sugar.

I am unsure about using mms and colloidal silver together.. I just dont know if the MMS would damage the silver and make it ineffective.

From testimonials I have read the MMS should work also. You may also want to look at working at getting more alkaline. Baking soda will help but you have to know what you are doing cause you can make yourself too alkaline and that can cause significant problems too. eliminate all soda pop and sugar products as they are very acid forming, which candida loves.

You said you were taking one ml of silver per dose? I do not know your product but I would take a lot more than that. I think that silver should take care of the problem but you will have to be persistant.

I am a strong supporter of the nutrasilver product as I have seen it take care of a number of things. Cipro and bactrim will only promote more fungus!

If your urinary symptoms are really bad stay with the flomax for a while.
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Old 12-15-2009, 01:56 PM
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I have the same symptoms as you and was wondering what you used to fix it, and how long did it take? This is just terrible.
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I'm on the diet, and I bought some fresh turkey from the Deli and it had 1g of sugar, but I tried to just eat vegetables all day and all night and couldn't do it. Felt like I was going to die. So will 1 gram of sugar kill me? I wanted some oatmeal , but it had 1gram of sugar. This is really hard. Will it get easier once I get it to break. I didn't order the Silver yet, no money, but I have the Oil of Oregano and the Health Food Store said that would do it. 2-4 wks, what do you think? I'm doing the best I can. Have been out of work for so long cause of this. I can't think right and would loose my job if I went back. That is why I stayed out. I feel itching in the penis, since I started the diet, I haven't felt that before, probably because I broke it up and maybe it is starting to come out a little. Is there anything over the counter for the itching, This is driving me crazy. Will I ever be normal again, I just want to get this over, I can't live like this. I go to Doc. Next Monday. I will try to get the natraSilver, but right now, I hope the Oil of Oregano does something. Eating Garlic, and Drinking a little Apple Cider Vinegar 3 times a day (Braggs Undiluted) noticing difference from something.
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Old 12-15-2009, 04:55 PM
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How are you taking the oil of oregano? Drops put in capsules I hope. I am not sure how much of that to take but with a gardia infection I once treated we put about 5 drops in a capsule and took 3 times a day for a couple of weeks. Better to take with meals, it can be rough on the stomach.

I just don't know what to tell you. I wonder if flagy would help you. Its a pretty heavy duty drug that takes care of some stuff that antibiotics cant touch.
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SmokeyJoe, maybe this link is useful to you, good luck.

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I appreciate your input so much, I get upset and just get on this forum to get some advice and help from you. I don't want to end up with cancer one day because of this. I just want to fix it. To answer your question, about the Oil of Oegano, I take it after I eat vegetables or some meat withought capsles, I didn't know to do that, I put 4 drops on a teaspoon and put some water in it and then drink it. I think I'll get some capsles tomorrow. One more thing, I don't have a probiotic right now, should I get one, I didn't know when to start that. Is that when my memory and things will come back? I don't even know what to buy, maybe the health food store can suggest something. Do you have any suggestions for a Probiotic.
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Hello Gang.....
I have been up reading all that I can on this problem as well.
I have been suffering from Prostititis for over ten years now and can not seem to shake it. It is literally a "pain in the butt".

As of late, it seems my problem has developed to a point where I can not maintain an erection. As one would guess, this is causing me GREAT concern. I am trying deperately to remedy the problem. After lots of research, I have gone out and purchased some Silver Water. Although, the recommendation is 5-10 ml orally 1-3 times a day, I am going to go with one ounce every four hours as suggested. I dont think 15-30 ml a day is gonna cut it.

I will also be following up with a prostate supplement which seems to have all the natural elements in it (its called Prostate Perform... I think the company is called New Roots). I am also thinking of trying prostate massage/milking as well. I am hoping this will reverse my problems. I will keep this forum updated....... Wish me luck !!

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Ps. Some EXCELLENT information on these threads. Tnx !!
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Old 12-20-2009, 07:55 PM
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I wanted to ask you if I have Candida in my prostate, will it go away if I get rid of Candida in my body? I think the antibiotics caused some more like you said. I just wonder how to eliminate that candida in my prostate. I think it will go away, but not sure. I go to the doctor tommorrw. Is there anything Doctors can do to test if there is candida in my prostate. I do have fungus/ Yeast becasue I do the spit test and yes it spider webs and clouds up. So if I fix the yeast problem I think my Prostatitus will go away. I think that mms might do it from what I read, but I'm scared about it. Do you really think NutraSilver will candida for good?
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Old 12-21-2009, 10:44 AM
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Stewwy - good luck and do keep us posted as we are so unsure of the cure at this time and only have testimonials to go on.

Smokey Joe, I wish I could give you absolute wisdom on this. To me it seems that NutraSilver would do it. I cannot be absolutely positive. I recently talked with some who used it for a vaginal yeast infection with pretty good results but it turns out perhaps she didn't do it long enough, 3 days she did, and it started to return after about a week, which tells me she probably should have done about 10 days. She decided to give up and went for regular medicine and seems fully cured now.

I have read testimonials where candida was cured with NutraSilver. I recommed that you call Russel at the NutraSilver company. Although he sells the stuff I think he is pretty fair and honest.

I have also read testimonals for a number of prostate issues clearing up with MMS. I certainly think it is worth a try. I would not be afraid of MMS but I understand why you might be. I certainly approached it with caution when it first came my way. Go to www.HealthSalon.org and read the testimonials found it the top tool bar. MMS only costs about $20 so if cost is an issue it may be the product to try first. I have also read other kinds of candida issues coming under control witht he use of MMS.

If you go to the doctor I would not mention the spit test cause he's gonna look at you like you are some kind of nut. But I would say to him that if there is a way to do a fungus culture for the prostate to please do it. It will likely require prostate massage to creat a seman sample. Lots of docs avoid this these days, I don't know why. In the old days if a guy went to the doc it was sure to happen! and maybe thats why guys don't like to go to the doctor much, they carry a ancestrial memory?

Suggest to him that you are concerned that it is a fungal issue. Tell him you have had partners with cadidia problems. Remind him that the antibiotics are not working...
I will say this, that as a nurse these are the steps I go through to tell doctors what to do and just kinda guide him along till he thinks its his idea on what to do! I would not be adverse to taking an antifungal drug.. Ketokonazole comes to mind and would be taken as a pill. It is a very inexpensive pill at Walmart.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ketoconazole

a more expensive drug, way more expensive is fluconazole but is now preferred by doctors for some reason. So this may be a choice. It is quite effective in most cases I have seen. For the prostate I would insist on at least a 14 day course of treatment for either one. The prostate is not as easy to cure as a topical or vagianal infection. Lots of tissue there and places for fungus to hide. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluconazole


Although he might choose to try to take a culture you can start the meds right way after the culture is taken. Only purchase 4 days of meds because the culture might say to do something different. Acutally I am not sure how long it takes for a fungal culture to grow out and if a successful culture for your conditon is possible... As you probaly have noticed they dont think to treat with antifungals for this condition. Ask the doc and then purchase only part of the prescripton. The pharmacy will be glad to do this.

If you feel better but sense it is not totally gone with the medication call the doc right away and tell him you are better but not cured. Hopefully he will give you another 7 or 1o days of meds. Do not delay to make this phone call. You don't want to go backwards.


I would still follow with nutrasilver or MMS as antifungal medicine may not get all the fungus even though you feel better. Fungus, just like antibiotics, is capable of mutating and becoming resistant to treatment also so you want to get all of it.

Hope this helps.
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I went to the doctor and the urologist and a infectious disease doctor don't think it is yeast. I had oral sex and that is it. I've been checked for Aids and Hepattius, just to make me feel better, because I was flipping out. I did get an Empididymitis. I've had a CT scan and it was normal. I also fell down escalators about the same time. My pelvic bones is swollen, and the infectious disease doctor is concerned about a bone disease and wants an MRI done. I have abominal swelling and it looks like I have a hernia on the right side but I don't. I did have prostate problems, but seem alot better now. Not sure what did it. I did 80 hrs of sitting each week for many weeks and Urologist was concerned for the prostate in the begining. My main problem is the pelvic pain, pelvic swelling, and taking alot of vicoden. The problem started out that I couldn't urinate real good and had pelvic pain. Then to the doctor, then a shot and doxycyline, Then to the urologist-30 days of cipro, no better, then 2.5 months of bactrim, now I seem ok with the urinating. He did say my prostate does not feel normal, kinda a little jelly feeling. So told me to buy Quercetin 500mg vitamin from Health Food Store and it helped. So he did a trans rectal exam and looked at the prostate with a camera it it looks good, normal size. The urologist said "your problem is not urology, maybe bowel". I am having bowel problems. Bowel is not always normal. Pelvic and adominal area is swelled. So I'm thinking maybe IBS. Not sure. My pelvic bone is swelled. When I lay down on my back, my pelvic bone is raised up in the air and looks inflamed. So he is concerned about a pelvic bone disease. I don't know about that, not sure. I went from a healthy guy to out of work and feeling bad just like that. I think I had so much antibiotics in me that is why my spit did the fungus thing in the water. i don't really know if I have that yeast thing or not, it may be something else. Not sure what it is but it's got me real worried, and I wish I could talk to you on the phone because you seem so knowlegable. Do you have any idea what it might be now. Those are my only problems now is the plevic bone swelling and the abdominal swelling with bowel problems. I might have a stress fracture on the pelvic bone too from falling down the escalators, which all happened at the same time. Don't think so but it's possible. I just don't understand about that pelvic bone swelling and the abominal swelling. If you can give me any input I would appreciate it very much, you have given me so much good advice, I just don't know if I have that yeast thing. I went on the diet for 7 days and saw some improvement but it came back during the diet just like it does now. I'm not on the diet now. No sure why my prostate feels like jelly or not. The urologist was hoping to see liquid on the prostate and he would drain it, but he looke at it with a camera and it looked fine. Mabe it just needs vitamins. ----Happy New Year by the Way!!!
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Well, Smokey, it would be a freakin miracle if you don't have yeast involvement with all the antibiotics that you have had.

Antibiotics can do other types of damage to normal cells, interfering with complex enzyme processes and formation of cellular structures. It can create a terrain where microbes can thrive but they will not necessarily be the common microbes that doctors are acustom to looking for and hence they come up the autoimmune disorder diagnosis, but most of the time they cannot really give you the etiology of what is happening.

First I would ask for a pelvic bone xray, or the CT scan will show it, to rule out fracture.
If there is a fracture go on line an find a place to purchase homeopathic symphytum in 200c potency. (this is comfrey in homeopathic preparation, just comfrey alone will not do what the homeopathic preparation will do) Take just a few (2 or 3) pellets 3 times a day. Should cost about $8. It will speed the healing time for fracture and decrease inflammation caused by fracture.

I would increase that quercetin to two times a day, 500mg in am and pm. You would also do well to supplement with a B100 type of supplement. I like Jarrow Brand. www.Iherb.com Since cipro will annihilate all bacteria in the gut you need to eat lots of living food, like salads, organic if possible. Remember, this is the drug of choice for gut infections, ameoba and many parasites. Its what you will get if you get the runs in Mexico or other foreign countires. This will eventually replace the correct flora. Meanwhile B vitamins need to be supplemented bcause gut flora produces B vitamins.

For bowel issues... just get some MMS and start that. Go to www.jimhumble.biz and start reading. Read everything.

You can purchase mms from people found on this page. It is cheap. Generally 12 to 20 dollars. Look for a company that will sell you the citric acid in a separate bottle with it.
http://www.healthsalon.org/396/mms-where-to-purchase-it-ebay-and-other-suppliers/



MMS is just incredible for bowel issues. There are a few people on this forum that will testify to that. I also had a bowel issue in my cecum for a few years. There was inflammation, swelling and pain at the cecum area and a naturopath said I was being threatened by appendicitis, but I don't know for sure. I kept the inflammation at bay with grapefruit seed extract for a long time, then Black Spanish Radish also helped, having to repeat it about every 5 or 6 months. When MMS came out and I started it it went away twice as fast, like just in a few days and has not returned, almost 2 years now.

Now if there is an inflammatory process going on there is generally one of two common reasons, infection or injury. These are almost always the root cause of inflammation. And if the inflammation is caused by cancer it is my opinion also that infection is the root cause. Forget all that autoimmune BS. Many autoimmune diseases have infection at the root cause whether doctors are intelligent enough to figure it out or not....and I don't mean to be arrogant but I am just sick of the bull and the pain and suffering they cause people.

Now, the infective agent my be difficult or near impossible to diagnose. For instance, some people with Rhumatoid arthritis use antibiotic therapy to keep symptoms under control, yet the docs usually can not find an infection. They use the antibiotics simply cause they work on some RA people. Now some very brilliant scientists back near the turn of the century did find microbes for RA. They used very specific microscopes, staining processes and evaluations... these are not used today. Why? clueless.

MMS 1 and MMS2 may be the answer for you. It is all explained on Jim Humbles site. It will take care of All pathogens, I repeat, all, given enough time and persistance.



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Ok you got me convinced that it is yeast, because of all of the anti-biotics. Now should I get MMS1 or MMS2? I have been reading alot of good about it, but not sure which one to get. I just want to fix this soon, or atleast get started on fixing it. The doctors don't seem like much help. I ate some low fat yogurt 3g of sugar, so I had 2 of them and I was in pain and discomfort. I'm eating lean meats and vegetables. So is it ok to get the MMS then get some pre-biotics then once I get back to work I'll get some Pro-biotics? I'm just not sure which MMS to get MMS1 or MMS2 for yeast.
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I think you need to get both mms 1 and mms 2
Keep reading Jims site to understand what they are.

Anyone know where Smokey can get mms 2?
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