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Old 07-08-2011, 01:27 PM
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BEWARE MEN, TALKING THE PERIOD ISSUE HERE.. FAIR WARNING FOR YA IN CASE YOU WANT TO STEP BACK OUT!!!!



So ok, I bragged too soon! after missing about three months worth of periods, it seems they have come back in force...For the past two, possible three weeks, (trying to put this nicely guys...might want to leave the room now!!!) I have had a full force period, to the point that every time I sit on the toilet, the water turns bright red... Changing pads at least two if not three times a day.. Some large clots, but not many. Very tired, totally exhausted... Cant walk on the tredmill, because it seems to bring more flow, any walking seems to bring more, but tredmill moreso. Normal periods were usually heavy for a day or two, but then would slack off... I would go for two or three days, stop for a day and then go for two or three more days.. and if I remember correctly, this one started out that way, I went for two days, stopped for a couple of days, started, and havent stopped since....Doesnt even look like we are slowing down... I dont think I am having any other signs of menopause, Im hot, but its in the 100s down here, so everyone is hot... Im on edge, but having five teen agers and a few other little kids in the house would make anyone on edge... Im not ready to kill them yet, just more like I want to run away type attitude.... So I finally called the doctor's office this morning, and of course they want to see me as soon as possible... i have an appointment monday morning..... So between now and then, what can I do to make this problem go away.... Is shepards purse appropriate for this??? I havent had a female exam in probably 15 years.... What can I do or take to protect myself from having to have a hysterectomy, or is it too late, am I doomed?
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Old 07-08-2011, 05:19 PM
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JustMe, Shepherd's Purse is used to control bleeding, and can help with excessive menstruation. However, it can cause low blood pressure and respiratory paralysis in some people. It can't be used with blood pressure meds, beta-blockers (Inderal) or calcium channel blockers (Calan, Procardia).

Rather than taking anything at this point, if it were me, I'd just wait until Monday and find out what is really causing the excessive bleeding, maybe there's a fibroid or cyst involved. If my doctor suggested a hysterectomy, I'd get a second opinion first. I think that's one of those operations that they're too hot to do, and many times is unnecessary.

I wish you luck on Monday, and hope that whatever it is isn't too serious. In the meantime, I wouldn't take any supplements that may thin the blood like vitamin E, etc.
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Old 07-09-2011, 08:27 AM
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Excessive bleeding is a premenapausal symptom, and a variety of premenapausal symptoms can go on for years... been there, done that.

I found help by taking bio-identical hormones.
You need to find a doctor who knows about it as most dont

It costs me $30 a month. The doctor writes the script for twice as strong as I need and I take half that amount every day...

Followup after the right script is determined is once a year for hormone level checks. My doc feels that women can take these hormones into their 90s or beyond if they want.

I take DHEA, Testosterone, progesterone and two different types of estrogens... for 4 years now and doing very well.. Read Suzanne Summers book on it.
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Old 07-09-2011, 12:11 PM
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Thank you very much ladies for the help... and I was so hoping that they were going to just stop! oh well, I suppose.... The physicians assistant that I see is ok with ordering from my compounding pharmacy...So I will keep my fingers crossed!
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Old 07-12-2011, 01:38 PM
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Ok, we are all just in the wrong business.... spent an hour or so with my physicians assistant yesterday, she did a pelvic exam, drew blood and then referred me to a gynecologist. I was charged 145 dollars. Went to the gynecologist this morning, did a breast exam, a pap smear and an endometrial biopsy, told me she would set me up for a mammy (after I told her I didnt do mammys?!) And is setting me up for a ultra sound. Asked me if anyone ever told me that I had fibroids (does that mean I have them???) told me there is a possibility of cancer and thats why she was doing the biopsy...told me that the fat cells could be energizing my estrogen levels and causing all these problems, suggested it could be my neglect of taking my thyroid medicine, and then wrote me a script.....Does anyone want to make a guess on how much that final bill was???? Oh and she wants to see me back on the 26...I have just spent my house payment on doctors today....and still didnt get fixed and dont know whats wrong.....beginning to think I was better off leaving well enough alone.... Now I remember why I dont go to doctors... I spent a half hour in the waiting room, fifteen minutes in the exam room waiting and maybe 10 minutes with the doctor...and wrote a check for five hundred dollars!!!!! (Oh and still feeling cramps from the damn biopsy!!!!!
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The script is for provera, it looks like 10 mg looks like three a day.....can I just use shepards purse????
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I mentioned that it could be fibroids or a cyst, and I don't think they can detect those without the ultrasound. If you don't do mammograms, I'd refuse that for sure. I hate doctors too, and rarely go...but in your case with the heavy bleeding, I'd want to find out what's causing it.
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I have fibroids, and I am so incredibly desperate with the symptoms, just like yours, but they get worse and mine are much worse, I am biting the bullet and going for the hysterectomy, I just can't deal anymore -- nothing, natural or otherwise, has helped and I have tried for years -

They can take them out, but they only come back another time...

Go for that ultrasound and go from there, if they are fibroids, you really don't want them...
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“Iodine is also critically important for maintaining estrogen balance within the body. Based on a controlled clinical trial with 1,365 women, 4mg daily of molecular iodine quickly "resolves" fibrocystic breast disease - it makes breast lumps and cysts disappear usually within only two months for most women. Iodine can similarly reduce uterine fibroids and one of the first conventional medical treatments for severe fibroids was to paint the uterus with iodine.” http://www.florahealth.com/flora/hom...ias/Iodine.asp

More info here: http://www.doctoryourself.com/fibroids.html

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Ok, so it looks like I cant afford to do this ultrasound..shoot, the gyn, took my house payment! 640 dollars just for the ultrasound and then another 70 dollars to have someone read it. So correct me if I am wrong please...the only thing the ultrasound will do, is tell me if I have fibroids or cyst, right??? The gyno did a papsmear and a biopsy, so if there was a chance of cancer, that would show up in those test and not the ultrasound, right???? I cant justify, another housepayment to pay for an ultrasound, when I know I wont have a hysterectomy unless I have cancer.... So, I think my course of action is going to be to forego the ultrasound for now. Continue on my thyroid medicine (its not levrothyroxin, Im allergic to that) go back to doing my exercises and try to get back on my eating program... Finish reading the above article that jfh posted (thank you jfh), and start dosing with iodine.. and read up on the red clover. I cant afford doctors, so Im gonna just have to do the best I can without them.....Thanks for the help everyone...If the test results come back with issues, then we will have to re-adjust my game plan.... my daughter in law asked me if I was diagnosed with cancer, what I would do.....I think my game plan would be veggie juicing, the baking soda protocol, the hydrogen peroxide, the budwig protocol and see if I could figure out how to get IV vitamin C.... I would also consider mms...
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You can make your own lipsomal vitamin c at home that is as effective as IV vitamin C. I would try mms before vitamin C. They are not compatible to use together in general. Vit c wipes out mms.

I had an ultrasound in Mexico... the cost... $40. I don't think I paid anything extra for the reading. Do you live near the border?

An ultrasound can see cysts, fibroids and potential cancerous tumors.


You might also try the Heel Homeoapthic preparation called Hormeel. You can get it from Iherb. In my Heel book it is described as " for the regulation of irregular menstrual cycles and for the relief of menstrual and premenstral discomfort such as pain, bloating and nervous irritability."

I have also seen it work well for hot flashes.

You can also add Ovarium compositum tablets from Iherb. described as "for the temporary relief of symptoms associated with dysnenorrhea including pain, nervous irritabiltiy, , insomnia, and irregular menses." This remedy is suppose to work on a deeper level than the Hormeel, but typically they are prescribed together.
http://www.iherb.com/Search?kw=ovarium+compositum

With my Heel Tautophedreel, for my asthma, which is a liquid, I cut it 50/50 with everclear, that way I get two bottles for the price of one and it works just as well... ah . the miracles of homeoapthy. Only about 5 drops per dose is required. It even works for my sister in law's extreme asthma... so you may be able to double this too.

If you start on iodine remember that you should have your thyroid levels checked in 4 to 6 weeks. You may need a reduction in your thyroid pill dosage.

If you are bleeding so much make sure you don't become anemic. Nature Sunshine IX herbal formula is good for anemia.
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Thanks Arrow, sounds like good solid advice as usual! I will start ordering asap.... I was wondering about the mms... Is it still possible to buy? Might be worth getting back on it again.... if there is any left in my last bottle, (over a year ago) would it still be good, or does it go bad?
I remember seeing the post about making the lipsomal vit C, I didnt get into the post, but will definitly find it again...the good news for me, I have children who know how to do IVs. I really enjoy the info you give about the homeopathy..so much good info!!! Thank you.... Is there a book that has all the info about which remedy for which problem, or do you have to take a course? Thats something I would really love to get into
The first time I ever used everclear, was to make kava tincture.... I had never walked into a liquor store before, so my kids went and got it for me...they made a big big joke about their "christian" sundayschool teacher mother buying gallons of everclear....It still feels really awkward for me to go into the liquor store and get bottles of everclear and vodka....its rather funny!
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Seems the opinion is that mms will degrade over time. If it is still yellow and if it still smells like chlorine when you activate it it is still good. I think that bottle of mms you have is over a year old.. maybe 2 or almost 3. Im using a 2 year old bottle and it works but I think my 3 - 4 year old bottle is shot... I tossed it.

There is a book for the Heel products but I think you have to be a practitioner to purchase it... not sure. its $20. Its not near as detailed as I would like it to be and the remedies are used for more things than the book says.
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Just me, I had this same problem years ago, in my early 40's. Huge clots would fall out of me during
my periods, to the point where I had to lay plastic on the floor by my bed, then a large towel on top
of that. Bathtub full of bloody sheets, towels, clothing. I went to my gyn, she did a D&C saying that might work.
It didn't help, though numerous fibroids were removed. After 3 months after the D&C the clotting/bleeding
was just as bad. I ended up with a partial hysterectomy done vaginally. Tubes & ovaries stayed
I had already had 4 children & we wanted no more.
It was the best decision I ever made!
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