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Old 10-05-2008, 10:29 PM
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Want to understand money and why we are in the crisis that we are in? and why this bailout will likely not work?
Watch this.



and this is also why the World Bank owns a large portion of the Amazon Rain Forrest, acquired by debt incurred by Brazil

BTW, banks are now starting to collapse in Europe. France just put in 400 Billion to hold themselves together this week as we did.




http://video.google.com/googleplayer...05277695921912
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What in the heck is that supposed to be Arrowwind?! It starts out so scarey I'm not sure if it's the same as what you originally meant to put there.
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Sorry Nightowl. You just have to go through it. We are in very scary times.

Did you know that the bailout passed congress because congress people were threatened by marshall law if they didn't
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No, I didn't hear about the threat, but I don't think it would have mattered...it just got them to turn the money over sooner and with less hassel. I didn't think that they would stop until the country was completely broke.

I've watched some pretty scarey videos the past few weeks but they seem to be getting more satanic. I'll try again to watch it later. I just thought someone might have changed the video since you'd been there. That has happened to me a couple of times on You Tube.
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That is the right video. It isn't that scary when you get past the first 5 minutes or so. The end presents some positive posibilities.

One idea I was thinking of this week, after this recession we are going through, how likely could it be that it just makes the illuminati go broke?

How likely is it, if we get a president that is not a war monger but a true peace negotiator, could we free ourselves from the corporatism that has so been endangering the planet and causing war and strife and famine around the world?
What if we had a president that really put an end to corporate monopoly, one who would fight against the shadow government?

We are no longer a democratic nation... as far as I can tell. Corporate lobby has seen to that and the current world order is that of corporate law, international treaties and nonelected boards that determine wether you have a job or not, like the WTO and NAFTA. Democracy has fallen to corporatism... which is capitalism taken to its most extreme and vile limit. The experiment is over.

Rep. Brad Sherman D-Calif. stated on C-SPAN said that he and other congressmen were threatened with the instituting of martial law if they did not pass the bailout bill.
Do a search on you tube, you will find it. He did not say where the threat came from.. Ah just let me guess, could it be the executive branch? Since they are the only ones who have such power?

Now, how to restore democracy and a financial system that serves all the people justly? If we can get through this without martial law, without US troops being used against our own people, without those concentration camps that are scattered across the nation being filled, without those 500,000 plastic caskets stored in georgia ever being shipped to a destination... without another 911 fabricated by the shadow government.

Dissolution and death of a system is an opportunity for a birthing of something new and with intelligence and inspiration, perhaps something much better. We have the capacity to do so much better for our nature and for the world.
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Long ago I formed and ran a corporation. But I keep hearing
and reading things that indicate to me that few in our public
have the slightest knowledge of what a corporation really is.

The labor union parasites have done their job well

The techniqes of Joseph Goebells are running at full tilt.
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Sorry Nightowl. You just have to go through it. We are in very scary times.

Did you know that the bailout passed congress because congress people were threatened by marshall law if they didn't
uh.. don't think I'm going to sit through a 2 hour video.

isn't there anything i can read?
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The movie is definately worth the two hours if you want to know what this world and our country are all about. I'm only half-way through it and will finish it tomorrow, but I'm glad Arrow talked me into trying it again.
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The movie is definately worth the two hours if you want to know what this world and our country are all about. I'm only half-way through it and will finish it tomorrow, but I'm glad Arrow talked me into trying it again.
sorry, just because it comes in a polished video doesn't mean it is "truth".

and I looked around to find out more about this. This film is called "Zeitgeist", and kind of rolls up all the conspiracy theories into one.

After hearing what these people proposed about 9/11, and seeing first hand that a lot of it was baloney (I live in the area where some of 9/11 happened).. I think I will pass...

more on the movie (besides just the link and instructions to "watch this":

http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/statement.htm

http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/

if you look on youtube, there are movies that respond to what the Zeitgeist movies say about christianity..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfsIEwI3LNA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=juKFSlQWojst

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Long ago I formed and ran a corporation. But I keep hearing
and reading things that indicate to me that few in our public
have the slightest knowledge of what a corporation really is.

The labor union parasites have done their job well

The techniqes of Joseph Goebells are running at full tilt.
A corporation in and of its self is not bad,

but when they use their money and power to control people , including politiicans, carry the profits and jobs over seas, manipulate books for illegal profits, ignore and pollute the environment, create monopolies, enslave children and adults in low wages both her and overseas, while their CEO's make millions. That to me is disgusting, vile and not Christian. Not only that many large corporations have proven themselves to be unamerican, and are really only interested in the development of a corporate world where the law of US loses all jurisdiction and control for business born and developed on American soil. Many have become down right traitors to the American Way.

And pretty soon were gonna nail some of these pests that have brought financial disaster to millions of people.

I just thank God this week that the American people saw to it not to allow Bush to privatize social security. All those people would have been ruined.
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I have thought for many years that if everyone in the world, with no money at all, would "love thy neighbor as thy self", and work hard to produce natural food products to feed the world healthy, healing food, process our natural materials to build housing for everyone with everyone helping to build them....get rid of the attitude that this is mine and that is yours...or I'm afraid you might get more than me...everyone could live well in the whole world with no money at all involved.
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Re:"And pretty soon were gonna nail some of these pests that have brought financial disaster to millions of people."

You mean they are finally get bill clinton? He was one of the prime
instigators of the sub-prime mess. Going after those at the end of
the chain is OK, but it is also a basic diversion being applied by
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I have thought for many years that if everyone in the world, with no money at all, would "love thy neighbor as thy self", and work hard to produce natural food products to feed the world healthy, healing food, process our natural materials to build housing for everyone with everyone helping to build them....get rid of the attitude that this is mine and that is yours...or I'm afraid you might get more than me...everyone could live well in the whole world with no money at all involved.
You and many others have thought this way, Nightowl. The world could be profoundly abundant if the mindset of humanity was of a different leaning, a different education.

The policies and indoctrinations of greed that our world society projects into the consciousness of humanity is really the core problem, underneath it all. The collective belief structures of nations and governments, supported by people who choose and live by principles of fear and lack is what has gotten us into this mess

Make no mistake, a New World Order is on its way one way or another. The question is, will it be of light or just more darkness.
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Could this be the News World Orders camel getting its nose under the tent?

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Oct. 10 (Bloomberg) -- Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi said political leaders are discussing the idea of closing the world's financial markets while they ``rewrite the rules of international finance.''
``The idea of suspending the markets for the time it takes to rewrite the rules is being discussed,'' Berlusconi said today after a Cabinet meeting in Naples, Italy. A solution to the financial crisis ``can't just be for one country, or even just for Europe, but global.''
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