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Because I spent too much time looking for old threads on 911 this morning I am creating this thread with all the links I could find regarding what many believe is the truth about 911 and the true cause of the devastation we endured as individuals and as a nation.

I periodically get emails from groups that are working to start a new congressional investigation on this matter and I will start to post that too as it comes to me. Things are really getting hot on this topic especially since the recent revelations about thermite.



The secret of 9/11 has already been revealed to many many people. There are millions fighting to get it brought to the public as as I write these words.

see these threads:
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/1...179751,00.html
(a very conservative Utah newspaper)
http://www.natmedtalk.com/showthread.php?t=3922
http://www.natmedtalk.com/showthread.php?t=3841
http://www.natmedtalk.com/showthread.php?t=3996
http://911research.wtc7.net/cache/wt...times_gold.htm Gold?
http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/evidence/gold.html
http://www.natmedtalk.com/showthread.php?t=4172

then see what scholars, architects and engineers, veterans, firefighters, medical professionals, politicians, religious leaders have to say about it:
http://www.google.com/search?client=...UTF-8&oe=UTF-8


This is the Eye Opener! and MadScientist, you may want to watch this again as so many more details have been added.
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9/11 Truth Comes Home :New York Senators Schumer and Gillibrand Call for Reopening of 911 Investigation


http://dailycensored.com/2009/06/11/...th-comes-home/

An associate of Schumer, New York State Senator Kirsten Gillibrand, also recommended a fresh look at the events of September 11, 2001. Commenting this past May 27th to a young reporter who himself had suffered the loss of a loved one during 9/11, the senator responded to the question of a new investigation by suggesting that “another review, or a fuller hearing” is warranted given the number of unanswered questions put forward by victims families since 9/11. “I think those questions should be answered,” she stated, going on to affirm that, “it’s important that every family member have every question answered.”

Senators Schumer and Gillibrand are not the first to call for a new investigation into the crimes of 9/11. In case you haven’t noticed, the list is long and it’s growing. The list of notable adherents to this call includes former President Jimmy Carter. When asked if he’d support family members who want a new investigation into 9/11, he said, “yeah, I don’t have anything to do with it but I certainly would. It would be nice.” Former Senator Mike Gravel, who long ago brought the Pentagon Papers to the U.S. Congress, supports the call as well. As does his friend Daniel Ellsberg, the recipient of said document. Republican Senator Lincoln Chafee wants to see a new investigation, as does former Minnesota Governor Jesse Ventura. He, and other members of Political Leaders for 9/11 Truth, (PL911truth.com) including Curt Weldon and Cynthia McKinney, are “calling for a new, independent investigation of 9/11 that takes account of evidence that has been documented by independent researchers but thus far ignored by governments and the mainstream media.”

On the international front, British MP Michael Meacher, Japanese MP Fujita Yukihisa, former Italian President Francesco Cossiga, and Andreas von Buelow, the former State Secretary of West Germany’s Ministry of Defense, have all expressed support for a new inquiry into the September 2001 attacks. So has British MP George Galloway, who noted that, “the failure of the Bush Administration to properly investigate, maybe for self-serving reasons, because it would have shown them to be monumentally incompetent, or something more sinister than that, is another argument that is beginning to be established.” He went on to say that because “there are lots of questions,” there is “definitely the need for more investigation.”
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I watched the video and I cannot imagine if someone took the time to watch the whole thing that they could come away saying that this is all just wild speculation and imagine. Yet I have heard talk show hosts do just that. But then they have their democrat or republican blinders on thus their people could never be directly or even indirectly involved in such a thing.
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When you consider the mindset that condones torture and that will actually speak publicly in favor of torture directly into the faces of the people of the world, you just have to wonder what such a consciousness, such a soul type is capable of. There is no shame. There is no restraint. There has only been lies and deception, illegal use of the power structure, to promote a political agenda that does not represent the American people's nature, heart and sense of higher good....nor their constitution.

You don't hear too many people stating that they are proud to be Republican these days. The good Republicans seem to all be hiding or defecting. Unfortunately these good people have been conned by the neocons who do not and never have had a righteous Republican platform in their best interest....their agenda is very dark.

Now we need to figure out what Obama's agenda is because he has lost me and I do think that an erosion of his power base of the masses of people who put him where he is is starting to occur. Of course there is the perspective that all the candidates are the same, are controlled by the same hidden power bases... but it was good to hope for a while, to believe that change can happen... a refreshing break...but I do think delusional, ultimately.... we will remain under the shadow of delusion until the dark forces that are the power base of this nation and the world are contended with.

And of course, mad scientist, you have it right... ultimately it is the Bilderburgs, the Rothchilds, etc. the power blood lines... and the institutions that they create like the World Bank, the World Health Organization, The World Trade Organization and its foul offspring, NAFTA.... and all their economic subsidiaries such as Bayer, Merck, Monsanto, Dupont, Nestle, Haliburton, General Dynamics, Raytheon, Exxon and a huge host of others on the international industrial scene, much involved in chemical and war production.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bilderberg_Group

Obama is just wrong about his insistence on not investigating the Bush regime. Those who do crime must be punished. Those who steal freedom from the people must be exposed and punished. They must be made an example of. There must be justice. What happened to Liberty and Justice for All? If he will not support Liberty and Justice for all he is not my friend.

If 9/11 and all the other BS that has happened during the Bush years is to come out it will not be because of Obama. It will because of the people raising their voices and demanding investigation, truth, and justice.
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Very glad to see efforts to reopen the investigation. Only the internet could do this! The cat is out of the bag and won't go away, ever. It only grows. This should be interesting.
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911 remembered. What really happened???

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyKR2...layer_embedded
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Fifty questions on 9/11
By Pepe Escobar

It's September 11 all over again - eight years on. The George W Bush administration is out. The "global war on terror" is still on, renamed "overseas contingency operations" by the Barack Obama administration. Obama's "new strategy" - a war escalation - is in play in AfPak. Osama bin Laden may be dead or not. "Al-Qaeda" remains a catch-all ghost entity. September 11 - the neo-cons' "new Pearl Harbor" - remains the darkest jigsaw puzzle of the young 21st century.

It's useless to expect US corporate media and the ruling elites' political operatives to call for a true, in-depth investigation into the attacks on the US on September 11, 2001. Whitewash has been the norm. But even establishment highlight Dr Zbig "Grand Chessboard" Brzezinski, a former national security advisor, has


admitted to the US Senate that the post-9/11 "war on terror" is a "mythical historical narrative".

The following questions, some multi-part - and most totally ignored by the 9/11 Commission - are just the tip of the immense 9/11 iceberg. A hat tip goes to the indefatigable work of 911truth.org; whatreallyhappened.com; architects and engineers for 9/11 truth; the Italian documentary Zero: an investigation into 9/11; and Asia Times Online readers' e-mails.

None of these questions has been convincingly answered - according to the official narrative. It's up to US civil society to keep up the pressure. Eight years after the fact, one fundamental conclusion is imperative. The official narrative edifice of 9/11 is simply not acceptable.

Fifty questions
1) How come dead or not dead Osama bin Laden has not been formally indicted by the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) as responsible for 9/11? Is it because the US government - as acknowledged by the FBI itself - has not produced a single conclusive piece of evidence?

2) How could all the alleged 19 razor-blade box cutter-equipped Muslim perpetrators have been identified in less than 72 hours - without even a crime scene investigation?

3) How come none of the 19's names appeared on the passenger lists released the same day by both United Airlines and American Airlines?

4) How come eight names on the "original" FBI list happened to be found alive and living in different countries?

5) Why would pious jihadi Mohammed Atta leave a how-to-fly video manual, a uniform and his last will inside his bag knowing he was on a suicide mission?

6) Why did Mohammed Atta study flight simulation at Opa Locka, a hub of no less than six US Navy training bases?

7) How could Mohammed Atta's passport have been magically found buried among the Word Trade Center (WTC)'s debris when not a single flight recorder was found?

8) Who is in the possession of the "disappeared" eight indestructible black boxes on those four flights?

9) Considering multiple international red alerts about a possible terrorist attack inside the US - including former secretary of state Condoleezza Rice's infamous August 6, 2001, memo - how come four hijacked planes deviating from their computerized flight paths and disappearing from radar are allowed to fly around US airspace for more than an hour and a half - not to mention disabling all the elaborate Pentagon's defense systems in the process?

10) Why the secretary of the US Air Force James Roche did not try to intercept both planes hitting the WTC (only seven minutes away from McGuire Air Force Base in New Jersey) as well as the Pentagon (only 10 minutes away from McGuire)? Roche had no less than 75 minutes to respond to the plane hitting the Pentagon.
11) Why did George W Bush continue to recite "My Pet Goat" in his Florida school and was not instantly absconded by the secret service?

12) How could Bush have seen the first plane crashing on WTC live - as he admitted? Did he have previous knowledge - or is he psychic?

13) Bush said that he and Andrew Card initially thought the first hit on the WTC was an accident with a small plane. How is that possible when the FAA as well as NORAD already knew this was about a hijacked plane?

14) What are the odds of transponders in four different planes be turned off almost simultaneously, in the same geographical area, very close to the nation's seat of power in Washington, and no one scrambles to contact the Pentagon or the media?

15) Could defense secretary Donald Rumsfeld explain why initial media reports said that there were no fighter jets available at Andrews Air Force Base and then change the reports that there were, but not on high alert?

16) Why was the DC Air National Guard in Washington AWOL on 9/11?

17) Why did combat jet fighters of the 305th Air Wing, McGuire Air Force Base in New Jersey not intercept the second hijacked plane hitting the WTC, when they could have done it within seven minutes?

18) Why did none of the combat jet fighters of the 459th Aircraft Squadron at Andrews Air Force Base intercept the plane that hit the Pentagon, only 16 kilometers away? And since we're at it, why the Pentagon did not release the full video of the hit?

19) A number of very experienced airline pilots - including US ally Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak, a former fighter jet pilot - revealed that, well, only crack pilots could have performed such complex maneuvers on the hijacked jets, while others insisted they could only have been accomplished by remote control. Is it remotely believable that the hijackers were up to the task?

20) How come a substantial number of witnesses did swear seeing and hearing multiple explosions in both towers of the WTC?

21) How come a substantial number of reputed architects and engineers are adamant that the official narrative simply does not explain the largest structural collapse in recorded history (the Twin Towers) as well as the collapse of WTC building 7, which was not even hit by a jet?

22) According to Frank de Martini, WTC's construction manager, "We designed the building to resist the impact of one or more jetliners." The second plane nearly missed tower 1; most of the fuel burned in an explosion outside the tower. Yet this tower collapsed first, long before tower 2 that was "perforated" by the first hit. Jet fuel burned up fast - and by far did not reach the 2000-degree heat necessary to hurt the six tubular steel columns in the center of the tower - designed specifically to keep the towers from collapsing even if hit by a Boeing 707. A Boeing 707 used to carry more fuel than the Boeing 757 and Boeing 767 that actually hit the towers.

23) Why did Mayor Rudolph Giuliani instantly authorized the shipment of WTC rubble to China and India for recycling?

24) Why was metallic debris found no less than 13 kilometers from the crash site of the plane that went down in Pennsylvania? Was the plane in fact shot down - under vice president Dick Cheney's orders?

25) The Pipelineistan question. What did US ambassador Wendy Chamberlain talk about over the phone on October 10, 2001, with the oil minister of Pakistan? Was it to tell him that the 1990s-planned Unocal gas pipeline project, TAP (Turkmenistan/Afghanistan/ Pakistan), abandoned because of Taliban demands on transit fees, was now back in business? (Two months later, an agreement to build the pipeline was signed between the leaders of the three countries).

26) What is former Unocal lobbyist and former Bush pet Afghan Zalmay Khalilzad up to in Afghanistan?

27) How come former Pakistani foreign minister Niaz Niak said in mid-July 2001 that the US had already decided to strike against Osama bin Laden and the Taliban by October? The topic was discussed secretly at the July Group of Eight summit in Genoa, Italy, according to Pakistani diplomats.

28) How come US ambassador to Yemen Barbara Bodine told FBI agent John O'Neill in July 2001 to stop investigating al-Qaeda's financial operations - with O'Neill instantly moved to a security job at the WTC, where he died on 9/11?

29) Considering the very intimate relationship between the Taliban and Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI), and the ISI and the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), is Bin Laden alive, dead or still a valuable asset of the ISI, the CIA or both?

30) Was Bin Laden admitted at the American hospital in Dubai in the United Arab Emirates on July 4, 2001, after flying from Quetta, Pakistan, and staying for treatment until July 11?

31) Did the Bin Laden group build the caves of Tora Bora in close cooperation with the CIA during the 1980s' anti-Soviet jihad?

32) How come General Tommy Franks knew for sure that Bin Laden was hiding in Tora Bora in late November 2001?

33) Why did president Bill Clinton abort a hit on Bin Laden in October 1999? Why did then-Pakistani president Pervez Musharraf abort a covert ops in the same date? And why did Musharraf do the same thing again in August 2001?

34) Why did George W Bush dissolve the Bin Laden Task Force nine months before 9/11?

35) How come the (fake) Bin Laden home video - in which he "confesses" to being the perpetrator of 9/11 - released by the US on December 13, 2001, was found only two weeks after it was produced (on November 9); was it really found in Jalalabad (considering Northern Alliance and US troops had not even arrived there at the time); by whom; and how come the Pentagon was forced to release a new translation after the first (botched) one?

36) Why was ISI chief Lieutenant General Mahmud Ahmad abruptly "retired" on October 8, 2001, the day the US started bombing Afghanistan?

37) What was Ahmad up to in Washington exactly on the week of 9/11 (he arrived on September 4)? On the morning of 9/11, Ahmad was having breakfast on Capitol Hill with Bob Graham and Porter Goss, both later part of the 9/11 Commission, which simply refused to investigate two of its members. Ahmad had breakfast with Richard Armitage of the State Department on September 12 and 13 (when Pakistan negotiated its "cooperation" with the "war on terror") and met all the CIA and Pentagon top brass. On September 13, Musharraf announced he would send Ahmad to Afghanistan to demand to the Taliban the extradition of Bin Laden.
38) Who inside the ISI transferred US$100,000 to Mohammed Atta in the summer of 2001 - under orders of Ahmad himself, as Indian intelligence insists? Was it really ISI asset Omar Sheikh, Bin Laden's information technology specialist who later organized the slaying of American journalist Daniel Pearl in Karachi? So was the ISI directly linked to 9/11?

39) Did the FBI investigate the two shady characters who met Mohammed Atta and Marwan al-Shehhi in Harry's Bar at the Helmsley Hotel in New York City on September 8, 2001?

40) What did director of Asian affairs at the State Department Christina Rocca and the Taliban ambassador to Pakistan Abdul Salam Zaeef discuss in their meeting in Islamabad in August 2001?

41) Did Washington know in advance that an "al-Qaeda" connection would kill Afghan nationalist commander Ahmad Shah Massoud, aka "The Lion of the Panjshir", only two days before 9/11? Massoud was fighting the Taliban and al-Qaeda - helped by Russia and Iran. According to the Northern Alliance, Massoud was killed by an ISI-Taliban-al Qaeda axis. If still alive, he would never have allowed the US to rig a loya jirga (grand council) in Afghanistan and install a puppet, former CIA asset Hamid Karzai, as leader of the country.

42) Why did it take no less than four months before the name of Ramzi Binalshibh surfaced in the 9/11 context, considering the Yemeni was a roommate of Mohammed Atta in his apartment cell in Hamburg?

43) Is pathetic shoe-bomber Richard Reid an ISI asset?

44) Did then-Russian president Vladimir Putin and Russian intelligence tell the CIA in 2001 that 25 terrorist pilots had been training for suicide missions?

45) When did the head of German intelligence, August Hanning, tell the CIA that terrorists were "planning to hijack commercial aircraft?"

46) When did Egyptian President Mubarak tell the CIA about an attack on the US with an "airplane stuffed with explosives?"

47) When did Israel's Mossad director Efraim Halevy tell the CIA about a possible attack on the US by "200 terrorists?"

48) Were the Taliban aware of the warning by a Bush administration official as early as February 2001 - "Either you accept our offer of a carpet of gold, or we bury you under a carpet of bombs?"

49) Has Northrop-Grumman used Global Hawk technology - which allows to remotely control unmanned planes - in the war in Afghanistan since October 2001? Did it install Global Hawk in a commercial plane? Is Global Hawk available at all for commercial planes?

50) Would Cheney stand up and volunteer the detailed timeline of what he was really up to during the whole day on 9/11?

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7) How could Mohammed Atta's passport have been magically found buried among the Word Trade Center (WTC)'s debris when not a single flight recorder was found?



I remember when that came on the news. They only showed it a couple of times on CNN then it was pulled. I knew the very second I saw it that we were in the midst of a magnitude of BS. Then it disappeared from the media like it never happened, as though they realized they had done something of incredibly transparent that even the most brain washed amongst us might question. Fortunately it can still be found in internet searches.
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8) Who is in the possession of the "disappeared" eight indestructible black boxes on those four flights?
Better yet, how did two of those planes magically disappear after they crashed? No remains. and the few remains found at the pentagon were not a match for the correct engine type..

Ever examine plane crash sites? There is stuff like debris and wings, and tail finds, and seats and bodies... even from the highest altitude smack into a mountain side.

Yet with the pentagon crash we have DNA evidence of the people on board but we have no wreckage. Obviously we are as stupid as they think we are to buy this pack of lies. DNA from bodies survived but tail sections, seats, wings incinerated to ash....
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At the bottom of the page there is an ad from Russia Today about 9/11 conspiracy.
http://www.russiatoday.com/Top_News/...FRINDQodskwuiw
It's getting international attention. This will be hard to conceal much longer.
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