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Old 07-27-2011, 02:58 PM
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I can only assume that Vitamin D and melatonin will fortify the system as it fortifies many systemic pathways but I have seen no evidence that they in and of themselves will cure MS. Do you have any such evidience?
I'm not convinced that MS is curable.

I think the remission that some CCSVI treatments have provided is probably temporary (though much to be welcomed by those fortunate few) as it's only addressing the symptom but not the cause of blocked veins. Stenting arteries is only a temporary measure for many, The approach Dr Davis uses at Track your Plaque is solving the problem that causes the blockages. Those with MS/AD caused by poor blood flow through brain (and consequent build up of iron) need to understand what is causing the poor blood flow (hence links to Uprightdoctor) and work on strategies to improve that scenario.

I think MS could be prevented and I think the progression of the condition may be slowed and I'm sure that most people with MS would have greater muscle strength, less chronic pain and better cognitive function when Vitamin D status is improved so that they have a stored reserve of D3.
Before I learn't about the late effects of polio I was attributing my symptoms to being potentially MS as many of the symptoms of MS apply equally to PPS, so I've been following the topic for many years. I don't think anyone who has had polio expects ever to be cured of the condition or cured of the late effects, I think the best we can hope for is to prevent further deterioration as best we can while doing our utmost to be as fit as our damaged bodies allow.
We know sufficient about the role of vitamin D for chronic pain not to suffer unnecessary pain.
We can all improve our pain threshold, in the same way we can improve the ability of our skin to tolerate UV exposure.
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Ted, you may be interested to take a good read of this article on Sara Vaughtners website. I brought links to these pdf files over here but cant remember where I put them.
http://www.owndoc.com/lyme/multiple-...of-a-cover-up/

one of th topics covered on this page is as follows:
2004 (Switzerland): Chronic Lyme borreliosis at the root of Multiple sclerosis – is a cure with antibiotics attainable?
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I'm as cautious of anyone promoting a single cause of MS as I would be of anyone promoting the idea of a single cause for AD.
That is not to say I'm doubting that Lyme disease may be implicated in MS in the same way it's reasonable to consider if Lyme Disease is also the cause of AD

But we should not rule out other possibilities

Virus and MS
and herpes may also be a candidate.
Alzheimer's Disease: A Pathogenetic Autoimmune Disorder Caused by Herpes Simplex

Traditionally it was the practice to SUN babies.
Mothers would lay their naked babies in the sunlight and make sure they had regular full body sun exposure while ensuring they didn't burn but just got a little pink.
It's about time we reintroduced this practice and made sure the natural immune function of the next generation was NATURALLY as robust as possible.
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Well you present a case for MS being caused by virus, where I suggest that Lyme is involved. It could be one or the other, it could be both, considering that almost 90 percent of the population carries herpes simplex, or the chicken pox virus or both.

Although there is much to be said about getting and keeping strong in the defense systems, I think that once the disease has hit and is manefesting symptoms, aside from protocols you mention on your blog, one must directly attack the pathogen. MMS or colloidal silver and enzymes is proving to be able to do it for many people.
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Ah, the GERM VS TERRAIN debate! Currently raging on in Myalgic Encephalomyelitis/Chronic Fatigue Syndrome and Multiple Sclerosis and autoimmune disease fields and forums everywhere.

Does the immune system dysfunction cause viruses like Herpes Symplex which are latent in most people to become active in MS, or does a virus or pathogen cause the immune system dysfunction?

This is the question most needing an answer. Personally, I'm in the terrain camp (can't get around that bad ole mercury and other toxins and vitamin deficiencies and they keep bandying about virus after virus with no answer--it should be easier to indentify a pathogen unless there's a cover-up, but still...) but I'll be glad to change camps if only they would find the answer!

Once you have these diseases there's usually no cure so prevention is key and so if you're healthy---focus on terrain, i.e., keeping your body healthy, which includes avoiding stress.
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