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Old 09-17-2017, 01:58 PM
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Quotation Voltaire 1692-1788



“Doctors are men who prescribe medicine of which they know little, to cure diseases which they know less, in humans they know nothing.”
Nothing has changed
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Old 09-30-2017, 04:02 AM
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They want you to pay insurance to see doctors who cannot even cure the common cold.
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Old 10-11-2017, 01:29 AM
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Its true.
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Old 11-13-2017, 12:23 PM
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Most of the illness that kill people is self inflicted Heart disease, cancer, type two diabetes, and dementia these are not caused by bacteria, virus, they are cause by poor health practices.
I agree d0ug, I know for too, many years I never gave a thought to my health because I was healthy for the most part. After getting on the nutrition/exercise in, or around 2006 (and I've come a long way since that but still have a long way to go) I'm at least in better shape (lost my extra 20 pounds) and know "what" I am eating, which is basically balanced, with little white flour if any, and no sugar (rarely). No alcohol or cigarettes (gag).

Medicare is something I worked for, so I have no qualms about getting it. What I do wonder, is about doctors. I am hoping I might be able to see alternative medicine doctors, chiropractors, etc. I maybe should make another thread?? Let me know you guys if you would like me to.
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Old 11-13-2017, 07:52 PM
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I don't go to the doctor's much, but last time I was at the Kaiser facility I saw some signs of chiropractors, and other types of physical therapists there, maybe massage, rolfing....don't know, didn't pay much attention. Will be signing up for Medicare and be on it in 2018. Like you I don't visit the doctor much and hopefully it'll stay that way, but who knows.
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I don't go to the doctor's much, but last time I was at the Kaiser facility I saw some signs of chiropractors, and other types of physical therapists there, maybe massage, rolfing....don't know, didn't pay much attention. Will be signing up for Medicare and be on it in 2018. Like you I don't visit the doctor much and hopefully it'll stay that way, but who knows.
I try not to go to doctors, but there are times I know I need to. But I turn down a lot of "pills" they want to give me, most all. Instead, I try to find out if they can refer me to other specialists at least. Hopefully someone that can sit and talk with me long enough to know what is truly going on. The others just herd you in, "try" to shove a 'script in your hand, etc.

Maybe when I have Medicare in December, I will have more choice over who I see, but so far, I haven't found hope in the Medicare manual they've sent me
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Old 11-14-2017, 07:28 AM
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I try not to go to doctors, but there are times I know I need to. But I turn down a lot of "pills" they want to give me, most all. Instead, I try to find out if they can refer me to other specialists at least. Hopefully someone that can sit and talk with me long enough to know what is truly going on. The others just herd you in, "try" to shove a 'script in your hand, etc.

Maybe when I have Medicare in December, I will have more choice over who I see, but so far, I haven't found hope in the Medicare manual they've sent me
I've been on Medicare for 4 years. I don't go to doctors very much either. Maybe once every 2 years. I rarely see my General Practitioner, but I do see my cardiologist. Now, he really is a drug dealer. I've talked him down to 2 pills. An ACE inhibitor and a calcium channel blocker. I tried to get rid of them, but I guess that will not happen. Anyway, you will have to pay 20% of med expenses. I also pay $20/month for Medicare Plan D (prescription meds). Those things are expensive without that. But you will be able to visit a doctor or specialist of your choice. And there are annual services (checkups) that you may appreciate for free.
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Hillary Clinton and Obama were owned by the medical mafia. They were pushing for national health care so the medical mafia could make even more money by destroying the health of this country. More people die as a direct or indirect result of medical care than any other reason.
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Old 12-18-2017, 12:38 PM
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Most things in this country have come to be a scam. DrugCare is certainly one of the latest.

If we could just do a big reset, and do away with ALL types of insurance, we'd be better off.

I recently got off BP meds...the nurse practitioner who prescribed some for me, was aghast when I told her the meds gave me 5 different side effects. She acted like she'd never heard of side effects and she'd been gutshot; possible dizziness is the only side effect of them. She tried to tell me I they were psychosomatic and all in my head, because I'd been reading (educating myself) on the internet.

She and 99% of all medical dr's have been formerly MIS-educated.
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When the medical system replaced the word cure for manage and control is when the real medical system died and replaced with drug pushers
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Old 12-19-2017, 02:47 PM
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Socialised medicine is the worst that could happen. First the people who take care of their health have to pay from the people who donít. So what is beneficial about being healthy when it cost you the same as people who destroy their body knowing it will not cost them anything and they can get off work.
Just think how the school system would be if everyone got the same mark no matter how hard they study? Or the same wages no matter how hard you work?
When it comes to health everyone thinks thatís different but it is not.
If it comes out of your wallet you might think differently. People are saying I donít want vitamins or minerals because I have to buy them but the drugs are covered by the insurance.
Hillary Clinton, Bill Clinton , and Obama should all be jailed for crimes against humanity and for working as tools of the drug and medical mafia to enslave this nation to that medical mafia.
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Old 12-26-2017, 12:06 PM
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Most of the illness that kill people is self inflicted Heart disease, cancer, type two diabetes, and dementia these are not caused by bacteria, virus, they are cause by poor health practices.
I've read that "doctors/drugs/hospitals" are now the #3 cause of death in the USA. I can believe it.
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Old 12-26-2017, 01:14 PM
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Nutriceuticals and herbal medicine are far superior to pharmaceuticals. The US government just won't pass a bill to change current "healthcare" to something better, like orthomolecular medicine.
EVER WONDER WHY THE GOVERNMENT NEVER STEPS ON BIG PHARMA'S TOES TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT? BIG PHARMA HAS SO MUCH MONEY AND POWER THAT ANY POLITICIAN THAT DARES TO CHALLENGE THEM WILL BE WIPED FROM THE MAP AS A POLITICIAN AND RUINED FOREVER. BERNIE SANDERS SPOKE AGAINST THEM IN HIS CAMPAIGN AND YOU SAW WHAT THE CLINTON HAG AND HER TROOP OF BIG PHARMA STOOGES DID TO HIM. NOTHING SHORT OF A REVOLT BY THE CITIZENS OF THIS COUNTRY CAN DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT, BUT THE SHEEP ARE TO DOCILE TO DO IT. BAAA BAAA GOES THE LITTLE SHEEP AS THEY MARCH INTO THE DOCTORS OFFICE.
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Old 04-22-2018, 01:58 PM
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I'm on medication. There is only one reason why I do not go on a raw food diet whilst on medication: because they are both contraindicated to each other. And if they are both contraindicated to each other, I can choose only one of them. Since the medication is being forced upon me, I "choose" the medication.
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Choosing suicide is a poor option
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