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Old 03-16-2008, 06:06 PM
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Default Gum and Teeth problem.

I brush everyday and have done for a while now, although when a kid I never really did. I have very straight teeth also. They're not rotten, nor blackened and there is no sign of any discoloration to the teeth in a rotten sense, not brown, not black, not even extremely yellow.

My bottom gums have thinned out and receeded so that now I can see the whites of the bottom of my front two teeth, the two next too it also heading in that same direction although no-where near as bad.

The gums don't really hurt, although of occasion they might but even with brushing everyday I've noticed them still receed. I just now noticed tonight that my front two teeth are infact wobbly when gripped and moved. Only these two teeth wobble slightly and its not a big wobble, but enough to worry me that I might lose them very soon. I expect that I will lose all four, I'm only 21.. and to lose two of them now would just be brutal. Not without time to save cash for replacement teeth.



I would love to go see a dentist but living in the UK, The NHS dentists are fully booked and to go private, I need stupid amounts of money. I'm clueless of what to do. As far as I'm aware a dentist is taking on in april so I'm going to try for that, but I'll have to see.

Does anyone know what I might be looking at here? My gums if I rub my finger across them, can smell, I read that perhaps its peradontis or something, I'm almost petrified of losing my teeth soon.. does anyone know what is going on, what I can do and a time frame?

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Old 03-16-2008, 07:26 PM
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Consider taking CoQ10(high dosage) and rinsing with diluted oil of oregano,diluted clove oil, or MMS.
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Yes, CoQ10 at very high dosage for until results are seen. Perhaps 200mg two or three times a day. Make sure you get a good product. It can be expensive.

I recommend MMS for this. Put it on your dental floss also.

Second choice is grapefruit seed extract by nutribiotic. Be careful. If your gums are very bad it will hurt. You have to start slow like one drop mixed with your toothpaste. As time goes by you can go up to two drops. Eventually putting it directly on your gums and floss.
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Had a "deep planing" without any impressive results in the gum pockets. They seem to want to do this very expensive procedure repeatedly. Any reason to keep doing this, if there's no real obvious results?
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Please tell, what is a "deep planing"?
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Please tell, what is a "deep planing"?
Deep root planing, below gum scraping while numb:

Deep cleaning of the teeth to remove hardened plaque below the gum line. This periodontal procedure is usually performed one quadrant at a time.
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Hydrogen peroxide! Rinse with that daily per instructions on the bottle! Old stand by. Stop brushing so hard too. Don't use toothpaste esp fluoridated. The coating prevents remineralization of the enamel.

One guy (the old chemist- can't remember his name) says brush with mild soap, and use sodium bicarbonate and vit C or something. Or you could get calcium ascorbate (neutral) and suck on that to help remineralize the teeth possibly?

I use a mild soap sometimes and the teeth are so clean an smooth, it is hard for the bacteria to stick. Also it is important to keep the mouth rinsed and neutralized. Saliva is alkaline.
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Hydrogen peroxide! Rinse with that daily per instructions on the bottle! Old stand by. Stop brushing so hard too. Don't use toothpaste esp fluoridated. The coating prevents remineralization of the enamel.

One guy (the old chemist- can't remember his name) says brush with mild soap, and use sodium bicarbonate and vit C or something. Or you could get calcium ascorbate (neutral) and suck on that to help remineralize the teeth possibly?

I use a mild soap sometimes and the teeth are so clean an smooth, it is hard for the bacteria to stick. Also it is important to keep the mouth rinsed and neutralized. Saliva is alkaline.
Thanks for your advice RCannon. I have been rinsing with hydrogen peroxide for awhile now, and also proxa brushing with it before bed. I tried brushing with olive oil soap some time ago, didn't like it, and continue using my Aquafresh toothpaste (with flouride) Probably need to try the soap again.
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You can just dry brush too, that's been shown to do better than toothpaste, per Dr Dean Edell.
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Thanks for all advice. I have some gum problem and the dentist has to do some deep cleaning. It's painful I can say. I'll try the CO-Q10.
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Gum Disease and diabetes have a genetic link which can cause heart disease, stroke and cancer due to the oral bacteria causing systemic inflammation.
Anybody with gum disease should get checked out for diabetes.

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The gene that links gum disease to heart problems

By Jenny Hope
Last updated at 1:13 AM on 26th May 2009


Scientists have discovered a genetic link between bleeding gums and the risk of a heart attack.

The two conditions share a genetic mutation that puts sufferers at risk of an aggressive form of the dental disorder and heart problems.
Gum disease - or periodontitis - can be a route into the bloodstream for around 700 types of bacteria found in the mouth, leading to the more serious problem of coronary heart disease.




The breakthrough has been unveiled in Vienna at a conference of the European Society of Human Genetics.

Dr Arne Schaefer said his team at the University of Kiel, Germany, had discovered a genetic variant situated on chromosome nine which was shared between the two diseases in 151 people. The scientists confirmed the association in further groups of 1,100 heart patients and 180 periodontitis sufferers.

'Because of its association with coronary heart disease, periodontitis should be taken very seriously by dentists and treated as early as possible,' said Dr Schaefer.

Although it is not clear how gum disease may trigger heart problems, it is believed that bacteria from the infected gums may increase the rate at which arteries become blocked.

Patients with coronary heart disease suffer a blocked or interrupted blood supply because of a build-up of fatty substances.
Bacteria entering the blood may activate the immune system, inflaming artery walls, or attach to fatty deposits in the arteries to cause more narrowing.

Researchers have shown similarities in the bacteria found in the mouth and coronary plaques.
Dr Schaefer said: 'Patients with periodontitis should reduce their risk factors and take preventive measures at an early stage.'

The risk factors for both conditions include smoking, diabetes and obesity.

Last year, researchers at Imperial College London found people with gum disease have a higher risk of developing cancer.

They said gum problems may lead to general inflammation in the body which promotes tumour growth or it could be a sign of a weak immune system.
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