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Old 08-17-2012, 04:02 AM
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Just a litle update:

I am 2 weeks completely symptom free !!!! I almost can not believe it !!
I have started a B-complex with a high dose of Niacin 150mg a day.
I think it is definitely having an effect as i feel no pain at all and having None of my previous symptoms (perenial pain ect).

I am still doing the following regimen:

4000 mg of Vitamin C daily
Added B complex vitamins with NIACIN 150mg a day
Curcuma powder (2 teaspoons a day).
Enterococus nosodes injections (prescribed by an alternative medicine practitioner).
Pygeum 100mg daily
Streching 2 times a day (kegels ect).
Cernilton - will start in 2 weeks again.

If i have no pain at all, i see absolutely no need to visit a Urologist for any kind of tretment, as in the majority of cases they find next to nothing
wheras the pain and discomfort of their procedures is of concern to me. My theory and the theory of some uros is once your semen is clear, then you
have no bacteria (no infection) - therefore no need to worry of bacterial cause of this disease- it is non bacterial

I hope it gets permanent, so there is a light in the end of the tunnel.
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Old 08-17-2012, 10:04 AM
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Prostatitis is bacterial.
The rest is all crap.
Its just not easily treatable because theres so many factors interweaving like hormones, immune system and offcourse the multiple pathogens one has possible obtained from years or even a slight moment of unhealthy sexual practices.
I ve been to this lab last year, after going around europe in different university clinics who didn't find anything in my sperm or urine, which basically found two strains of staph aureus in me and chlamydia.
They initially told me that with this strains of staph infection and the overlapping chlamydia which hides in the immune system quite efficiently i have a 10% cure rate in the long run and i could opt for surgery if this failed because of my very bad clinical picture.
I have to say that i developed prostatitis after using finasteride for hair loss and then without knowing made it worse by using saw palmetto for a couple of weeks.
I was thus put on 4 antibiotics daily (prulifloxacin, netromycin, moxifloxacin and dalacyn) and went to a very efficient doctor who massaged deep my prostate every day with enormous pressure. Offcourse i improved and one year later this improvement lasted. My life changed but i was not completely cured but i could function much better.
I finally purchased this terrific prostate massager and i started treating on my own but i can't keep up with the antibiotics they are too strong for me, i also have very big time constipation and abx make it impossible for me to poop no matter what i use (3 times normal amount of senna+fibers+yogurts).
So anyways the bacteria is still there, this lab i visited cultures them within 7-10 days, it only collects prostate fluid not urine not sperm and the doc there, a belgium fungal/virus specialist told me that in her 15 years of practice all prostatitis patients that came to her lab where found to have from 2 to 7 or more microbes. In some cases they had to culture the fluid again and again and finally discovered an amazing array of bacteria and protozoa, even up to ten pathogens where shown in some.
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Achilleas - This is all a bit vague for those of us trying to find a cure.

You say you went to 'this lab' and they found all sorts of pathogens in your prostate excretions?

Well, what is this lab and where is it? Please provide information so that we can at least research it.

What has your urologist said about their findings? Good/bad? Agree/disagree?

The antibiotic regime that you are on, is this as prescribed by this laboraratory? If not, why not? What has been your stated prognosis on this regimen?
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Old 08-18-2012, 09:57 PM
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Just a litle update:

I am 2 weeks completely symptom free !!!! I almost can not believe it !!
I have started a B-complex with a high dose of Niacin 150mg a day.
I think it is definitely having an effect as i feel no pain at all and having None of my previous symptoms (perenial pain ect).

I am still doing the following regimen:

4000 mg of Vitamin C daily
Added B complex vitamins with NIACIN 150mg a day
Curcuma powder (2 teaspoons a day).
Enterococus nosodes injections (prescribed by an alternative medicine practitioner).
Pygeum 100mg daily
Streching 2 times a day (kegels ect).
Cernilton - will start in 2 weeks again.

If i have no pain at all, i see absolutely no need to visit a Urologist for any kind of tretment, as in the majority of cases they find next to nothing
wheras the pain and discomfort of their procedures is of concern to me. My theory and the theory of some uros is once your semen is clear, then you
have no bacteria (no infection) - therefore no need to worry of bacterial cause of this disease- it is non bacterial

I hope it gets permanent, so there is a light in the end of the tunnel.
@johnny can you please state for the board what symptoms exactly this NIACIN is helping you with other than perineal pain.
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Old 08-18-2012, 10:04 PM
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Good news finally Harry. Happy for you. Keep strict to what you are doing as fall backs happen till we are strong. Good luck and all the best
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Old 08-19-2012, 03:54 PM
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I have started a B-complex with a high dose of Niacin 150mg a day.
I think it is definitely having an effect as i feel no pain at all and having None of my previous symptoms
I do not consider 150mg niacin a high dose, considering doctor Abram Hoffer was using 3000 mg and up to treat schizophrenia.

Have you (or anyone else suffering from prostate problems) considered adding essiac to your list of daily supplements?

Essiac is called a "tea", however, it really isn't a tea at all. In fact, it is a concoction of four very powerful herbs (in a proper ratio) that are added to tea, each with very specific powers.

Essiac contains:

Burdock Root, which is an effective blood purifier that neutralizes and eliminates poisons from the body. It contains a volatile oil, especially in the seeds, that is eliminated through the sweat glands, taking toxins with it. Burdock contains niacin, which is known to elimenate poisons from the body, including radiation. Burdock also supports bladder, prostate, liver, and will disolve kidney stones. It also contains an abundance of minerals, particularly iron. Burdock root has anti-tumor activity, and was used in the "Hoxsey" cancer treatment.

Sheep Sorrel: Reduces tumors as well as cause regression of metastasized cancer. (the whole herb is used, including the root) Sheep sorrel purifies the liver, promotes tissue regeneration, decreases swelling, strengthens cell walls, cleans the blood, and contains oxalic acid, which has anti-tumor and anti-cancer properties.

Slippery Elm Bark: The inner bark of the slippery elm tree is well-known for its soothing and healing properties. Slippery elm contains beta-sitosterol and apolysaccharides, both of which reduce inflammation and show anti-cancer activity.

Turkish Rhubarb Root: Is anti-inflammatory, anti-bacterial, and shown to have anti-tumor activity.


I would also suggest adding cinnamon to your list because it is a very powerful weapon against fungi, as well as being a cheap super antioxidant.
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Old 08-20-2012, 02:31 AM
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Will be considering your advice for sure Pinballdoctor !!
I have also ordered niocinimide tables and new Niacin higher dose tablets.
As niacin causes flushes when taken in a higher doses, niocinimide is an alternative, though both form the B3 vitamin. I owe my thanks to Tex, who initiated the Niacinimid discussion and experience.

Harry Crumb, my major problem is perenial discomfort. I actually never had sexually related problems. Still in my opition, you should try Niacimide and Niacin for sure. Its cheap, but effects can be noticeable within 2 weeks as in my case. My major concern was this discomfort in the perenium (which give you this golf ball feeling in the rectum) and discomfort while sitting.

Now with Niacin and Niocimide as strong detoxicating nerve agents i shall increase dosage and see what happens.
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Old 08-20-2012, 09:55 AM
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Will be considering your advice for sure Pinballdoctor !!
I have also ordered niocinimide tables and new Niacin higher dose tablets.
As niacin causes flushes when taken in a higher doses, niocinimide is an alternative, though both form the B3 vitamin. I owe my thanks to Tex, who initiated the Niacinimid discussion and experience.

Harry Crumb, my major problem is perenial discomfort. I actually never had sexually related problems. Still in my opition, you should try Niacimide and Niacin for sure. Its cheap, but effects can be noticeable within 2 weeks as in my case. My major concern was this discomfort in the perenium (which give you this golf ball feeling in the rectum) and discomfort while sitting.

Now with Niacin and Niocimide as strong detoxicating nerve agents i shall increase dosage and see what happens.
I've got a urology appointment at the end of September, If i can't get anything done then, I'll order the Niacin.
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Old 08-20-2012, 06:23 PM
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congrats johny1! I hope it continues!

I took a 5 hour energy drink and felt good for the day. I didnt know why it helped......but studied up on it. niacinamide is non flushing but does the same or better than niacin. Think about it guys....lack of b-vits and makes yeast love your body. All the meds we have taken have distroyed just about all the B vit in our body!

I know I am a stupid hillbilly and dont write well....but I can read. Study up on it! I found something that made me feel better by luck. Read up on it.

I said that to say this.......if you want me to write anymore about it.....I cant. It is what it is. I hope it helps moreof us. Pain is a pain!
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Old 08-21-2012, 09:31 AM
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congrats johny1! I hope it continues!

I took a 5 hour energy drink and felt good for the day. I didnt know why it helped......but studied up on it. niacinamide is non flushing but does the same or better than niacin. Think about it guys....lack of b-vits and makes yeast love your body. All the meds we have taken have distroyed just about all the B vit in our body!

I know I am a stupid hillbilly and dont write well....but I can read. Study up on it! I found something that made me feel better by luck. Read up on it.

I said that to say this.......if you want me to write anymore about it.....I cant. It is what it is. I hope it helps moreof us. Pain is a pain!
With that being said, I found out yesterday how much food plays a role in setting off symptoms. The entire day yesterday I felt decent,not as bad as usual. During that day,I drank water,sprite,milk,gatorade, just liquids no solid foods. I noticed that I wasn't burning up,and was laying there with my shirt and blue jean shorts on, which was strange to me, because I am usually hot as a furnace. I ate some solid food for supper. Next thing I know I start burning up, sweat dripping from my forehead, low backs burning, buttholes on fire, and off comes my shirt and shorts because I am on fire all over and hot as a sauna. So I have learned to avoid solid foods pretty much altogether, and will mainly drink liquids, milk, water,gatorade and an occasional sprite.

The gatorade Gatorade contains sodium, potassium and chloride to help replenish lost electrolytes and keep your body running.

Electrolytes are salt minerals that conduct electricity and balance fluids your body requires for proper functioning. Electrolyte imbalances, such as through dehydration and excessive sweating,can have serious health consequences.

With prostatitis comes fatigue, sweating, and your body is being beaten down daily.

http://www.livestrong.com/article/28...s-in-gatorade/
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Old 08-22-2012, 09:20 AM
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The gatorade Gatorade contains sodium, potassium and chloride to help replenish lost electrolytes and keep your body running.
Gatorade is crap. (just the color of it should tell you that)

Now...coconut water...there is a true energy drink... packed with nutrients, electrolytes, and lots of potassium.
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Gatorade is crap. (just the color of it should tell you that)

Now...coconut water...there is a true energy drink... packed with nutrients, electrolytes, and lots of potassium.
I looked at the coconut water and it said the following [ In fact, each serving of Vita Coco has more electrolytes and 15 times more potassium than the leading sports drink, and more potassium than two bananas (about 700 mg of potassium is in each 11.2-ounce serving size). Is about $23 for 12 pack. what does coconut water taste like does it have a sweet taste to it or not really?
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Old 08-22-2012, 01:38 PM
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Just a reccommendation HarryCrumb. If you still have bacteria in your tests (urine, semen ect) I reccommend you do an AUTOVACCINE from these bacteria. The laboratory usually does this from your bacteria and it takes 1 month to cultivate. Then you receive either 6 injections (recommened) or oral intake. I cant do this as my species are clear, though it is worth trying indeed with possitive outcomes in many cases.
I really doubt that a urologist shall prescribe you and ATB again as you seem to have tried everything with no results. In my case, an ATB is almost out of question already, so i am looking at alternative medicine. Autovaccine is something very high in my list of procedures you should try and do.
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Johny what is AUTOVACCINE? Can you give any link for it?

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Just a reccommendation HarryCrumb. If you still have bacteria in your tests (urine, semen ect) I reccommend you do an AUTOVACCINE from these bacteria. The laboratory usually does this from your bacteria and it takes 1 month to cultivate. Then you receive either 6 injections (recommened) or oral intake. I cant do this as my species are clear, though it is worth trying indeed with possitive outcomes in many cases.
I really doubt that a urologist shall prescribe you and ATB again as you seem to have tried everything with no results. In my case, an ATB is almost out of question already, so i am looking at alternative medicine. Autovaccine is something very high in my list of procedures you should try and do.
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Harry, the injection consists of like 7 antibiotics and even an antiyeast agent.
I have received my post massage prostatic fluid test as negative but the URO said that 90 percent of them are negative.

I am waiting for the Semen culture test to come back as well as fluorescent antibody test chlamydia.

Why don't you go for an injection yourself if nothing else is helping?

Did most people here had Semen Culture done? Are the results always positive?
Has anyone done fluorescent antibody test chlamydia? or DNA test?

I think trans rectal ultrasound also shows some scarring activity of it.

Interesting homeopathic remedy here.
http://www.abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/214823/

Thanks.
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I would try the injections, they are generally safe, I have never heard of anyone getting worse from injections. Most stories I have read state that injections work for most people. One problem that exists with injections is that a person will get just one injection and then stop cold turkey. One man who had prostatitis got one injection and it got rid of his chronic prostatitis for 1 year, then it came back and after that he just had his prostate removed by a different urologist. One guy who had them on the prostatitis ning website said it took 3 injections before he even noticed an effect. again it differs from person to person one injection could start curing you or it might take a couple to even start noticing an effect.

The injection will more than likely be levaquin. But, you don't have to worry about side effects from injections. I'm sure you are worried about the tendon and joint damage that can happen with levaquin, correct?
With injections all the antibiotic goes directly into the prostate, so you won't have to worry about any type of tendon or joint trouble at all. That is the major problem with taking pills, that 500 mg pill ends up all through out the body and only a tiny amount ends up in that prostate. I have actually watched a video on youtube talking about biofilm infections, chronic prostatitis is a medium to major producer of biofilm. It takes such a high concentration of antibiotics to kill a biofilm that wiping such an infection out with a pill can be very hard and in some cases even impossible.

If you do have a prostate infection the injections will clear it of the infection, it might take a few injections to get the job done depending how resistant the organism is but ultimately it will kill it. If the injections fail, then there is no way you have bacterial infection of the prostate. usually there will be different drugs in the injections. There will be antibiotics for bacteria, anti fungal medication for fungal infections, anti inflammatory medication to settle down inflammation etc....... By the way Dr Bahn in california does injections to. IMO I'd skip the massages and just go for the injections.
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Harry, the injection consists of like 7 antibiotics and even an antiyeast agent.
I have received my post massage prostatic fluid test as negative but the URO said that 90 percent of them are negative.

I am waiting for the Semen culture test to come back as well as fluorescent antibody test chlamydia.

Why don't you go for an injection yourself if nothing else is helping?

Did most people here had Semen Culture done? Are the results always positive?
Has anyone done fluorescent antibody test chlamydia? or DNA test?

I think trans rectal ultrasound also shows some scarring activity of it.

Interesting homeopathic remedy here.
http://www.abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/214823/

Thanks.
I don't have the money to travel out of state and pay for something like that, I don't have any insurance. Any money I have I am having to borrow from a relative because I don't have any money, I haven't been able to work in 2 years. If I had the money I wouldn't be posting on this website, I would have already gotten to a real expert and had this thing taken care of long ago.

By the way I just recently learned that lyme disease sufferers are typically told that it is all in their head and that they are hypochondriacs by their doctors and have nothing wrong with them. patients who have had the disease 10 even 15 years reported being told by doctors that it was all in their head and nothing was really wrong with them. sound familiar ? link below.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0sphF174yg

My grandma was in the hospital couple months back, she was throwing up, had stomach pain, the hospital told her it was all in her head and it was just her nerves and old age. They let her lay in the hospital sick as a dog for 5 days then sent her home. She then ended up going to the local hospital in our home town and turns out she had gallstones, so they end up sending her back to the first hospital she visited that told her it was all in her head and that she was just old, to remove her gallbladder. Doctors are nothing more than incompetent idiots who don't know their head from the hole in their ass.......
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