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Old 05-26-2010, 11:22 PM
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I am new on this site. I just started MMS yesterday and am going to try to increase one drop with each dose until I get nausea. I just got tested reactive/positive to Toxoplasma IgG and IgM. I was first tested positive to IgG in 2001 but was not tested for IgM at that time. I have had health problems since 1986 and have not got much help from conventional medicine. I suspect Toxoplasma might have something to do with my problems. Does anybody have any info about MMS on Toxoplasma. Thanks for your help.



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Old 05-27-2010, 04:03 AM
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Well since malaria is a protozoan and MMS can kill it in a very short time (4-24hours), Toxoplasmosis is also a protozoan. Let us know how it goes and good luck!
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Old 05-30-2010, 08:55 PM
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Hi asgardsurfer and thanks for the reply. I have been on the MMS now for 5 days and do feel generally much better. I am not so tired, my brain seem to be working better (no foggyness, better focus) and my nervous system seem to be working better as well. It feels like my brain has received new calmness and I have less tension headaches. For years I have been getting toxic, sometimes to a point that I get so nauseaus that I can't walk straight, often getting total metabolic shutdown. I have been unable to have any alcohol, just half glass of wine gave me hangover and metabolic shutdown for 4-5 days. I am not sure if this toxicity is due to heavy metals or toxo producing toxins in my body .I have also been getting daily headaches due to alternating hypo & hyperglycemia and low estrogen. It will be interesting to see what will happen with MMS...
I am now up to 6 drops and have been doing well, no nausea yet. I was on 100mg DMSA 2xday for about 6 days just prior to starting MMS for heavy metal provocation test. After 3-4 day started getting toxicity symptoms. I got better after I stopped taking DMSA and started MMS. Will get results for the heavy metals soon.
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Old 05-30-2010, 09:41 PM
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I suspect that MMS will handle this really well.
What you need to figure out is about the life cycle of this parasite. I really don't know anything about it. I wonder why conventional medicine could not help?

Well, they really cant help many malaria cases either. Some malaria parasites just keep coming back and coming back with conventional medicine but MMS seems to cure it.

Please please stick with us and keep reporting so we and the rest of the world can know how you progress with this disease. I hope you can return to the doctor eventually and get another test to see if it is gone.
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Old 05-30-2010, 10:39 PM
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It just happened to be that I was initially tested for positive Toxo in another city and I had to move. The new doctor did nothing about it so I assumed it was not a big deal and forgot all about it for years. I recently just wanted to see if it might still be reactive. I was also told that someone with normal immune system is able to handle and cure the infection... I wonder if that is the case or if it stays chronic... My current GP is great, she did suggest treatment with medication but I said I wanted to try MMS at least for 2 weeks just to see how I feel with it. I could always go with the meds later on... which I doubt I will need to. She was ok with it.
Since the testing is based on antibodies and not antigen I wonder how much later after the toxo is removed from the body the test will be negative... I need to do a bit more research on that...I know that when the active infection is gone it can still show positive antibodies many months later.
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Old 06-02-2010, 08:50 PM
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Hi arrowwind09, I am up to 8 drops of MMS and have had pain in my stomach since 3 days. It gets a bit better several hours after taking MMS. I had gastroscopy less than 2 months ago and seem to have gastritis. Do you have any suggestions for me? I might try probiotics. Should I stop MMS for a while..?
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Old 06-03-2010, 05:38 AM
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Hi arrowwind09, I am up to 8 drops of MMS and have had pain in my stomach since 3 days. It gets a bit better several hours after taking MMS. I had gastroscopy less than 2 months ago and seem to have gastritis. Do you have any suggestions for me? I might try probiotics. Should I stop MMS for a while..?
Try staying on MMS but reduce your intake. MMS is extremely powerful and when possible should not be stopped.
The rule of thumb is, if you're reacting to it, you really need it.
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Old 06-03-2010, 04:42 PM
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Yes, I agree with asguardsurfer, decrease your dosage to about half for a few days and see how that goes. Its not a race.

are you doing dosages every 1 to 2 hours or three times a day?

8 drops every 2 hours is quite a bit. if its 3 times a day 24 drops is still a fair amount. If you have gastritis it could be that the citric acid is upsetting it and causing pain. You not only want to eliminate pathogens but you want to heal a lining of a stomach that is highly irritated.

Are you on any antacid pills? and if you have been were they helpful regarding the stomach pain?

if they were helpful for the pain you might want to contiune them for a little while longer until your stomach is healed.

Then if you still have reflux, bloating, etc you might need to look into digestive enzyme products and betain HCL or something along that line when you are done with the mms. You don't want to add any acid though until the stomach is healed and that will mean no pain I would say at least for a week or so after no antacids are taken.

Surely the citric acid with the mms will be agravating. If you determine that that is true you might try taking the mms without activation on every other dose. Remember, when Jim cured his first case of malaria it was with unactivated sodium chlorite.
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Thank you both of you for your advice.

I have been taking MMS twice a day since I need to take mineral supplement as well to replace minerals that I lost when taking DMSA earlier (my supplement also contains Vit C). So I take this supplement around 4pm. Maybe after a while I can go to 3xday.

I have not been taking any antacids since I believe it is not the best thing for stomach problems. I have taken probiotics and it seem to help (my gastroenterologist is ok with it). I skipped my MMS lasy night and took probiotics and chlorella instead. I continued MMS again this morning but took it with guava/pear juice (w/o added VitC) instead of water. My stomach was better today but may try digestive enzymes as well. I agree it may be the citric acid giving me problems...

I saw my gastroenterologist today and showed my toxo results to him:
IgG EIA: 30 IU reactive
IgM EIA: reactive
IgG Avidity serology: high
He was quite interested in the situation and said since IgM is reactive I seem to have active infection. Since IgG was reactive already in 2001 I might have had this a long time. He was going to discuss with and possibly refer me to the infectious disease specialist. I also told/showed him MMS (as well as zapper which I mentioned him during last visit) and he asked me to bring it in). He is very openminded as you can see, which is great. He was interested in MMS as well and was going to look into it.

It is quite interesting case though. As far as I have read online, young children and immunocompromised patients, such as those with HIV/AIDS, those taking certain types of chemotherapy, or those who have recently received an organ transplant only, should get serious problems with toxoplasmosis. People with normal immunesystem, which I should have, should be able to take care of this infection. I believe toxo might have caused my health problems at least for the past 10 years....It could be chronic and my body unable to heal itself.

......just found out that guava is very high (3xmore than orange) in VitC so not good to be taken with MMS. I will get another juice tomorrow.....
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Thank you both of you for your advice.

I have been taking MMS twice a day since I need to take mineral supplement as well to replace minerals that I lost when taking DMSA earlier (my supplement also contains Vit C). So I take this supplement around 4pm. Maybe after a while I can go to 3xday.

I have not been taking any antacids since I believe it is not the best thing for stomach problems. I have taken probiotics and it seem to help (my gastroenterologist is ok with it). I skipped my MMS lasy night and took probiotics and chlorella instead. I continued MMS again this morning but took it with guava/pear juice (w/o added VitC) instead of water. My stomach was better today but may try digestive enzymes as well. I agree it may be the citric acid giving me problems...
I saw my gastroenterologist today and showed my toxo results to him:
IgG EIA: 30 IU reactive
IgM EIA: reactive
IgG Avidity serology: high
He was quite interested in the situation and said since IgM is reactive I seem to have active infection. Since IgG was reactive already in 2001 I might have had this a long time. He was going to discuss with and possibly refer me to the infectious disease specialist. I also told/showed him MMS (as well as zapper which I mentioned him during last visit) and he asked me to bring it in). He is very openminded as you can see, which is great. He was interested in MMS as well and was going to look into it.

It is quite interesting case though. As far as I have read online, young children and immunocompromised patients, such as those with HIV/AIDS, those taking certain types of chemotherapy, or those who have recently received an organ transplant only, should get serious problems with toxoplasmosis. People with normal immunesystem, which I should have, should be able to take care of this infection. I believe toxo might have caused my health problems at least for the past 10 years....It could be chronic and my body unable to heal itself.

......just found out that guava is very high (3xmore than orange) in VitC so not good to be taken with MMS. I will get another juice tomorrow.....
If you buy the organic apple juice from the health/food store it doesn't have the vit c added or I make my own sometimes. Geraldine
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If you buy the organic apple juice from the health/food store it doesn't have the vit c added or I make my own sometimes. Geraldine
Thanks Geraldine, I have some pear and apricose juice w/o VitC right now. As far as I know they should not be too high on Vit C either. I'll get some apple juice from the health food store as well.
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Just a quick update. I am up to 13 drops with MMS. I have not have nausea so far, just slight diarrhea occasionally. I have had stomach pain after taking MMS in the morning. I noticed this may be because I don't eat enough in the morning so it seem to irritate my stomach. When I eat well, oatmeal etc. I do not get the pain. I did not decrease my drops but kept the same dosis for few days. I have been quite tired this week however. By the end of this week I have had more energy and feeling much better. I also noticed my skin was getting quite bad earlier this week but much better now. The rash I have had on my both hands on and off for several years is gone at least for now, time will tell...My daily tension headache is better as well as my CNS seem to be calmer. My stress tolerance is better as well. My blood glucose level seem to be stable recently, at least have not had any symptoms to indicate otherwise.

I met with my homeopathic doctor (he is MD as well) yesterday who gave another strong remedy to fight toxo. I know it would be ideal to see what MMS does to toxo alone but having suffered for possibly more than 20 years with this I am doing everything I can to fight it (naturally at least for now). I have been suggested to start conventional toxo treatment by my GP but am hesitant to go on very strong medication for more than a month(Pyrimethamine, same drug as used for Malaria, combined with other antibiotics). I went for follow-up blood tests for IgG and IgM yesteday. It will be intersting to see if IgM has come down.

I have also started my 2 cats with MMS. I have been preparing 2 drops with little bit of water. I give one third of the mixture to each cat and one third is usually leftover. One of my cats started having some vometing yesterday (4-5th day of the same dose) so I decreased the amount for her. They both seem to be sleeping more than normal but I believe their bodies are getting rid of something...

- addition: .....I totally forgot... I did have one day earlier this week when I felt quite unwell, almost like toxic, very fatigued and with some nausea... not to a point of vomiting, just feeling sick, so wondering if that was a point when my body was getting rid of the pathogens and everyting else it needed to get rid of..... cause since then I have been feeling better.....

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Hi Long Road,

Since you are starting to feel better, if it were me I would not take any conventional drugs yet. You may be able to avoid it. Keep up the good work. Toxoplasmois should not be too hard to get rid of. And good you are treating your cats. Keep their litter box really clean. If they are carriers you don't want them reinfecting themselves or you.

Have you read the new protocol from Jim on taking mms... it is smalller dosages more frequently.... look here. www.jimhumble.biz
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Hi Long Road,

Since you are starting to feel better, if it were me I would not take any conventional drugs yet. You may be able to avoid it. Keep up the good work. Toxoplasmois should not be too hard to get rid of. And good you are treating your cats. Keep their litter box really clean. If they are carriers you don't want them reinfecting themselves or you.

Have you read the new protocol from Jim on taking mms... it is smalller dosages more frequently.... look here. www.jimhumble.biz
Hi Arrowwind09,
Thanks for the advice and the link. I have hard time doing multiple dosis within hours due to my work. I could maybe do 3 times a day, maybe 4 but more than that is not going to work for me. I am going to try to avoid the meds for the toxo at least for now. I have a feeling my cats may not be the source. I believe I have had it prior to my cats. My cats are also indoor cats but of course it is possible they have had it since the birth...

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Old 06-14-2010, 07:33 AM
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I wonder if you could give it to your cats?

Anyway, you could do more frequent dosage on your days off.... and still more frequent dosage on the days you work, even if it is just 3 or 4 doses might be better. You need to interrupt the life cycle of the pathogen. This is why many antibiotics are 3 or 4 times a day. Most antibiotics last in the system longer than mms. MMS hangs out for only about 2 hours.... see what I am saying?

I know it can be a pain in the butt to activate it and all that especially on some jobs, but I bet you could at least squeek in a couple of unactivated dosese. Unactivated doesn't taste near as bad and has no smell, so 2 or3 drops in water or tea or whatever you drink...
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