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Old 05-28-2015, 09:57 AM
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We are not too far off topic. Are we?
Depends on your perspective I guess lol. To some people all things are connected

How can cancer research and the recent posts in this thread seem to be connected? It is because fraudulent research and the business of manufacturing sickness are symptoms of a sick society...not a physically sick society (although it is), but a mentally sick one. Here is a short post I made on another forum recently that explains this issue:

People think in terms of social constructs and organizations so they think that changing the government or the social structure is the answer to our problems, but it is not! The problem lies in the hearts of men and in our twisted and depraved morals, and ONLY when mankind becomes pure in heart and mind can we enjoy peace and harmony. If everyone had high moral standards and virtue, all of society's seemingly unsolvable problems would vanish almost overnight.

Lies, fraudulent research, evil practices, and even the ubiquitousness of physical sickness are all symptoms of people's declining moral standards, and only by restoring our morals and character to high levels can these problems be eliminated. History shows this - no matter what measures are taken, evil governments and organizations always show up time and time again and even if crime is reduced for a time, it always resurges. World peace is not realistic because even though there are times of peace, wars always re-erupt. There is more than enough food and wealth for everyone on the planet, yet billions live in horrendous comditions with hardly any food or shelter. Why? It is because people have darkness in their hearts, and this darkness will continue to perpetuate these tragedies until it is removed. Charities, changes of government, and other actions intended to improve the world can have some degree of benefit, but the benefit will never be complete or lasting because society always returns to the standard that is expressed by its members. If we have low standards and continue to worship money and cheat and lie and steal (going to work and checking social media sites and not giving 100% is in fact stealing) as a society, than no measures taken to improve the outside world will have any lasting impact until we improve ourselves. People complain about the scum in our government, but we have no right to complain because we have gotten exactly what we deserve based on our behavior...we attract that which we are. When people are selfless and kind and compassionate than our politicians will be shining examples of virtue and character, but until then we will have a corrupt government no matter who we impeach or what measures we take. The root of these evils lies in our own hearts and minds, and only be digging up the root can we truly improve the situation.

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Old 05-28-2015, 10:04 AM
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We do indeed have all the power, and that power is to create the world we live in based on our thoughts and actions, but most people today are creating and perpetuating an evil world by default. It will take a mass shift in consciousness to rectify the problems we are facing, but the good news is one is already happening
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Old 05-28-2015, 07:54 PM
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Living Food, your post reminds me of something I learned long ago.

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Bahá’u’lláh, Founder of the Bahá’í Faith, invited us to view life on earth – as a preparation for the world to come.

Bahá’u’lláh compares life in this world to that of a baby in the womb. There, the whole purpose of the baby’s existence is to develop its physical body, to prepare it for life in the physical world.

In the same way, the purpose of life in this physical world is to develop our spiritual side – our souls – to prepare us for our birth into the spiritual world.

According to Bahá’u’lláh, it’s impossible to try and understand the next world, because, He said: “The world beyond is as different from this world, as this world is different from that of the child while still in the womb of its mother.”
All spiritual masters I am aware of all talk about the same things, so why do so few people pay attention??? Taking mercy on us, heavenly beings descend to this planet to teach us how to live and move on to higher things, and nobody listens to them!! It's a wonder Heaven hasn't given up on the human race already! Some people have said that this planet is the garbage dump of the cosmos, and peoples' behavior these days does seem to support that statement. I am disgusted with humanity's behavior these days, and all you have to do is turn on the radio or the TV to see how low our standards are now. Immense and historic things are happening in the cosmos right now and unbelievably powerful enlightened beings walk the earth in human form as we speak, but most people will not get to know these things because they have clearly demonstrated through their behavior that they are not ready for such knowledge.

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In the same way, the purpose of life in this physical world is to develop our spiritual side – our souls – to prepare us for our birth into the spiritual world.
To develop ourselves spiritually IS the purpose of life in this physical world, but we do not necessarily have to wait until the life to come to experience the benefits nor the spiritual world. We can experience amazing things and live mainly in the spiritual world in this very lifetime if we are diligent and highly disciplined, there is no need to wait until the death of our physical body. This is not for most people and 99.999% of people will not get to experience these things because they do not have the discipline or the intrinsic nature for strict spiritual cultivation, but those of us who do...well, those who are meant to follow such a path will be guided to it without fail.

The spirit world is omnipresent and far vaster than our limited physical dimension, and overlaid over every square inch of this dimension there are uncountable other dimensions both higher and lower than our own. We are intrinsically connected to the universe and everything in it, so it should not be a stretch of the imagination that we have the ability to see into and interact with other dimensions if we develop ourselves.


I have been enlightening to many profound things of late, but I dare not talk about them here because most people would not be able to relate at all and I would lose whatever credibility I may have...far better to stick with the safer stuff I have already been talking about in this thread. I don't want to challenge peoples' thinking too much because no benefit will come of that, I merely try to get people thinking about things and maybe encourage some who are ready to take a higher path in life. Suffice to say there is much to life than most people are aware of.
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Even much of what I have said in the above post may be unrelatable to some, and some people may in particular think I go to far with my judgements about the human race and my talking about what a sad state we are in. I say not so, look at the news, listen to popular mainstream music, look at the garbage on tv, and just go out and watch how people interact with each other. Then take a step back and look at all the unnecessary problems and corruption in your state, your nation, and this world as a whole. Even after doing so some may say that my opinions are still too harsh, but I am not talking from the standpoint of society's morals and what we are currently taught is right and wrong, I am speaking from a cosmic viewpoint and what the universe and higher beings view as right and wrong. Society's morals have become so twisted that they are no longer in line with the true moral standards of the cosmos, so we cannot use them as guidelines to go by any longer, they will merely lead us astray. A few quick examples are that we are taught we should defend ourselves and hit back if attacked, and that we should pick up money if we see it lying on the ground; if someone slanders and lies about us, we are taught to vehemently argue with the person to try and defend ourselves. "White lies" are ok and actually better than telling the truth in certain situations, and talking about trivial nonsense like the weather, sports games, or what happened to you at work earlier that day is so ubiquitous you would be looked at funny if you refused to engage in such a practice. These things may seem perfectly reasonable from the standpoint of our current societal values, but they are all abominations and evil acts as viewed according to cosmic standards (the only true measuring stick of things).

There are societies of cannibals where everyone believes it is absolutely ok and just to eat other humans, but does that make it so? Just because everyone else around you believes something is ok and acts that way does NOT make it ok, it just illustrates the delusion we live under. I have said more than enough already and will likely be getting some funny looks myself , but hopefully people will truly think about what I said here and in earlier posts in this thread. It's important to have an open mind about things, because the minute you lose that quality is the minute you stop being able to learn new things.
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Old 05-29-2015, 05:45 AM
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Just a note, then back to what this thread is about.
While I agree with much of what you say, this isn't a political site.
I wrote a SciFi book in the nineties that is scarily like today's situation with corporations and greedy politicians running a world (Flight of the Maita, book 35; Odd Couple Out). It was about another world. I wrote an earlier one, called Return to Earth, where it was mainly the military and crooked politicians. Combine the two and you have the world today.
It's a matter of projecting what you see around you and of shaking off the brainwashing you have lived under since birth.
In both, I projected the medical business taking economic control of phases of government.
Those were written fifteen - twenty years ago and, as many readers have suggested lately, "hit the nail on the head."
While I had traveled extensively before, I had been inside the system and it had never quite hit home, though I walked out of a lucrative "career" in music because I became disillusioned at what music was becoming (1974). The corporate mentality was becoming established and everything turned to greed and commercialism and mindless lyrics. You didn't have any idealism left, you went to a beat and lack of content and fixed patterns that would SELL, BABY!
We didn't have Monsanto and Bayer and Merck and Halliburton etc. being exposed for what they are when the books were written. A few of us saw what was becoming inevitable.
The only way to stop it is to wake enough people up.
I am beginning to doubt that is possible. It is sad. We are on the way out, I fear, when we could have had the stars.
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Old 05-29-2015, 07:52 AM
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While I agree with much of what you say, this isn't a political site.
From my point of view my posts had nothing to do about politics, but if you interpreted it that way it is likely my fault. I am not at all interested in political matters because the specific person/people in office doesn't matter, it is the character and standards of the people as a whole that matters. If people lack morals they will end up with politicians who take that attitude to the extreme (the situation in society today), and if people have high morals and virtue their "politicians" [it would be a completely different role in such a society] would be paragons of virtue and exemplary character.

It is however true that my posts have deviated far from the original scope of this thread, which I should not have done. Jfh, please delete my last two posts from last night...I got carried away and said too much. Let's get this thread back to its original topic.
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It is however true that my posts have deviated far from the original scope of this thread, which I should not have done. Jfh, please delete my last two posts from last night...I got carried away and said too much. Let's get this thread back to its original topic.
Please. Let me leave them here. This is the nice thing about a forum. Some topics trigger other more varied thoughts. Kind of like brainstorming sessions. Sure, it does break up the original thread, but it adds to open discussion. I believe the original post indicated how very much we can't trust things which we should be able to trust. That can lead us off topic somewhat. My grandmother always said, "Never discuss women, religion, or politics. That will always get you into trouble."

Maybe someday you can start a new topic, perhaps in Chitchat, on those ideas of which you are passionate.
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