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Default 30 Year Study of Vaccines -- Vaccines Unsafe and Uneffective

This scientific study citing 400 documented cases is causing many physicians and pediatricians especially to rethink their positions on vaccines. The overwhelming amount of evidence is impossible to ignore. The author of the study cites studies funded by pharmaceutical companies and government agency executives employed or subsidized by pharmaceutical companies as having deliberately provided misinformation. Read about it for yourself.

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I had read something similar about how clean drinking water eliminated polio, not a vaccine.

Getting a virus injected under your skin is not how our immune systems work. Your immune system starts in your sinuses, and then moves to your gut, etc.
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I had read something similar about how clean drinking water eliminated polio, not a vaccine...
Clean drinking water (uncontaminated by feces) only prevents a small percentage of the infectious diseases for which there are vaccines. A bunch of the diseases where there is a vaccine developed are transmitted by inhaled micro droplets in the air spewed out by coughing and sneezing - Clean water ain't gonna prevent that! Unfortunately, there are way too many pesky dirty water (feces contaminated) transmitted diseases that are the scourge of the third world for which there are no vaccines. They are diseases caused by virus, bacteria, amoeba and parasitic worms.
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A bunch of the diseases where there is a vaccine developed are transmitted by inhaled micro droplets in the air spewed out by coughing and sneezing
My point exactly. Your immune system isn't programmed to respond to a jab in the arm, instead it begins by inhaling something into your sinuses. Next, the gut kicks in. 80% of your immune system is in your gut. How does bypassing 80% of your system confer immunity?

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The effort to wipe out polio meant that children in some parts of India have received as many as 30 doses of oral vaccine before their fifth birthday. “This is an incredible achievement and they should rightly be celebrated. But it took a lot of doses of vaccine to get there,” said Nicholas Grassly, the Imperial College epidemiologist who co-authored the study. “It’s also important to create an environment where the vaccines will work better.” Water and sanitation improvements are vital components. In 2012, WaterAid India helped more than 450,000 people get safe drinking water and nearly 300,000 get toilets, but there is a long way still to go. India’s prime minister, Manmohan Singh, acknowledged this 2 years ago in calling for safe drinking water and proper sanitation for India’s children, to prevent and control the spread of disease.
http://globalhealth.thelancet.com/20...o-free-miracle

It's NOT the vaccine, it is clean drinking water that alleviates the spread of polio.
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This Bloomberg article reveals that the polio vaccine is a failure in India. The vaccine is ‘failing to work’ in kids getting as many as 15 doses of Oral Polio Vaccine (OPV) in one of the most expensive public health campaign flops in history ($9 billion).
What do you expect when these poor people are drinking contaminated water and walking barefoot through raw sewage?
The number one lesson that any first-year public health student should know by heart is that clean water and sanitation were the primary solution for the eradication of formerly-common infectious diseases in developed countries. A prime example is London. Londoners used to get cholera due to fecal contamination of drinking water (as recently as 1855). London had an infant mortality rate of 50%. Dr. John Snow figured out that cholera was being transmitted by sewage-contaminated drinking water. The British Parliament allocated funds to a sewage system built by chief engineer Joseph Bazalgette. End of problem.
You might think that if authorities could figure out the basic relationship between contaminated water and infectious disease 160 years ago, modern-day public health officials would be able to see the same problem in developing countries today and apply the solution (sewers and clean water). You would be wrong.
https://therefusers.com/polio-vaccin...rinking-water/
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