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Lovelife, did you try collodial silver for any length of time? I have what I call prostatitis, boy it can be painful for up to 15-30 minutes before it quits, I have antibiotics and they help but so does collodial silver, I take it for a few days, the pain goes away and I forget to take it
Yes I did try it for about six weeks but it did not much to be honest.


The best results I had was with antibiotics combined with Allicin max and other herbs but I never got cured and this is probably because of how long I have had it around 18 years.
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So I wonder why did the collodial silver not take care of this? Does the silver not get to the prostate easily? Are you not taking enough? The average CS dose is not large and the mainstream CS solution is about ~10 ppm but some of the "big boys" like nutrasilver that claims to be like 3600 ppm and recommend a "therapeutic dose" and not just a maintenance dose, maybe this is what is needed to kill the infection?
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So I wonder why did the collodial silver not take care of this? Does the silver not get to the prostate easily? Are you not taking enough? The average CS dose is not large and the mainstream CS solution is about ~10 ppm but some of the "big boys" like nutrasilver that claims to be like 3600 ppm and recommend a "therapeutic dose" and not just a maintenance dose, maybe this is what is needed to kill the infection?
My friend silver will not cure prostatitis on its own.
You have to change your lifestyle completely,diet, herbs,supplements,pelvic stretches,prostate massages.
You will need to do this for many months.
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Have you had an ultra-sound on the prostate? I have and it showed i have calcius stones in the prostate, I did not know you can get stones in the prostate and i would think they are part of the problem, I am trying some EDTA chleation suppositories as they are far cheaper and easier than iv treatments.
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Yes I have a few times and I also have stones.
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Hi sparky - in terms of original symptoms did you have issues sitting , burning pain etc... Basically pudendal neuralgia? I've just started pelvic floor therapy and it's pretty painful ... But assume worth it ? How long before u saw any positive results from it?
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Hi sparky - in terms of original symptoms did you have issues sitting , burning pain etc... Basically pudendal neuralgia? I've just started pelvic floor therapy and it's pretty painful ... But assume worth it ? How long before u saw any positive results from it?
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How is everyone doing? I see this thread has reached almost 100 pages and simply do not have the time to go back and read much. I apologize greatly for not being around here for nearly a year, but life has gone on and I must say you really do push this aside once you have reached a point where you are "cured" in your mind. I use the word "cured" very cautiously as I truly believe that the definition of a cure is unique to each and every one of us. This is because I believe what is being discussed on this forum, as well as hundreds of others all around the world, is actually a combination of many different "ailments" ranging from true bacterial prostatitis to muscular injuries. I do not like the word disease, and refuse to use it to describe this as more times than not diseases are not curable, whereas this is. Unfortunately, modern day medicine is not practiced by the most compassionate of people, as I'm sure we have all encountered careless doctors along our journeys. But there are many wonderful people out there that are willing to help, and are open-minded. I myself have been through the whole 9 yards with this mystery pain, and I too was at rock bottom, hopeless and without belief that I would ever reach a point where I was beyond this. I was wrong. It's as simple as that. This is most definitely beatable. Like I said, this whole umbrella term dubbed "prostatitis" is really just that. It is an umbrella term used to describe many different causes of pelvic pain.

I would bet my last breath that my symptoms were due to muscular tension and pudendal nerve neuropathy (not even entrapment as I once believed) from long distance cycling and heavy weight lifting such as squatting. If I had not drove myself insane with searching the internet and reading all the horror stories, I may have figured this out sooner. I too have had all the tests, all the antibiotics, all the "treatments". Some stuff did help, such as pelvic floor therapy and active release massage/myofascial release from a sports doctor. But taking time off from these activities, and time, are what helped the most. Time has completely healed me. I mean this in the most non-cliche way possible. Taking a break from the problematic activities and allowing my body to do what it needed to do to heal is what cured me. Now this may be different for all of you whether your situation is bacterial or muscular or whatever. But my point is, for one second, take a break from all the poking and prodding of your body, taking countless bacterial tests, ingesting countless pills/medications/supplements, and from stressing to all hell about this, and really assess your life up to the onset of symptoms. Being a highly, highly, potentially over-motivated individual, I thought I was just going above and beyond with the amount of physical exertion and exercise I was doing, when in reality, it was a long time of buildup, until I eventually broke down and the symptoms started.

It's been almost 3 years now since my symptoms began (if I remember correctly, I honestly cannot even remember anymore as I barely think about this anymore). I am back to my normal life. Lifting weights and running (more cautiously of course). I am back to school, back to work, back to pursuing goals and dreams. I say this not to brag to anyone here, but to inspire. I want you all to seriously assess your situations individually. Stop trying fit square pegs into round holes. If this ailment was that uniform, the doctors would be able to help you much more than they can.

I am not a doctor, but I am very knowledgeable of this entire situation due to months and months of self-education on medications, musculature, symptoms, etc. So please feel free to message me with questions or post them here and I will do my best to help all of you as much as I can. I cannot promise that I will frequent these boards as much as I used to, but I will make an attempt to check in here at least once a week, if not a few times. Many people here inspired me along my journey, such as Iwillbecured and a few others. These guys were very knowledgeable and inspiring when I too was just starting out with this and I'd like to say thank you to them for all of that.

Sorry for the rant, but do not give up hope! That's my message to you guys through this whole book I just typed, haha.

- Sparky out.
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For those of us with chlamydia caused prostatis...wondering how many of u have noticed memory has become much worse? Found this article I wanted to share which says that Alzheimers can be caused by it..we need antimicrobial trials!

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/scie...n-experts.html

Alzheimer’s disease could be caused by viruses like herpes, a group of renowned dementia experts have warned, as they call for urgent investigation into the link.

The worldwide team of 31 senior scientists and clinicians, which include specialists from Oxford, Cambridge, Edinburgh and Manchester Universities and Imperial College, have written an editorial which suggests that microbes are the major cause of dementia.

The herpes virus - the type which causes cold sores - and chlamydia bacteria are named as the major culprits, as well as a type of corkscrew-shaped bacteria called spirochaete.

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Professor Douglas Kell, Manchester University

Currently most scientists are trying to find treatments which prevent the build of sticky amyloid plaques and misfolded tau proteins in the brain which prevent neurons from communicating with each other, leading to memory loss and cognitive decline.

But in an the editorial in the Journal of Alzheimer’s Disease, it is suggested that it is a viral or bacterial infection which triggers the plaque build-up in the first place. Targeting them specifically with antimicrobial drugs could halt dementia.
Professor Douglas Kell of the University of Manchester’s School of Chemistry, said “We are saying there is incontrovertible evidence that Alzheimer’s Disease has a dormant microbial component. We can’t keep ignoring all of the evidence.”
There are currently 850,000 people living with dementia in Britain which is due to rise to one million by 2025 and two million by 2050. But despite 412 drugs trials taking place between 2002 and 2012, nothing has been shown to combat the disease.
The authors say that viruses and bacteria are common in the brains of elderly people, and although they are usually dormant, they can ‘wake up’ after stress or if the immune system is compromised. Around two thirds of people will acquire the herpes virus at some point in their lives, and many will not realise they have it.
The herpes virus implicated in Alzheimer's is also associated with cold sores Photo: ALAMY
The herpes virus in particular is known to damage the central nervous system, and the limbic system in the brain which regulates mood and instinct and is associated with mental decline and personality changes.
They also point to the fact that a gene mutation - APOEe4 - which makes one in five people more susceptible to Alzheimer’s disease, also raises their susceptibility to infectious disease. Viral infections in the brain are already known to cause symptoms similar to Alzheimer’s and the experts say the link has been ‘neglected’ for too long.
“Alzheimer’s disease causes great emotional and physical harm to sufferers and their carers as well as having enormously damaging economic consequences,” they write.
“We write to express our concern that one particular aspect of the disease has been neglected, even though treatment based on it might slow or arrest Alzheimer’s disease progression.
“We refer to the many studies, mainly on humans, implicating specific microbes in the elderly brain, notably herpes simplex virus type 1, chlamydia pneumoniae and several types of spirochatete.
“We propose that further research on the role of infectious agents in Alzheimer’s disease causation, including prospective trials of antimicrobial therapy, is now justified.”
They say new findings could also have implications for the future treatment of Parkinson’s Disease, and other progressive neurological conditions.
Alzheimer's disease could be caused by a virus
Professor Resia Pretorius of the University of Pretoria, who worked with Prof Kell on the editorial, said “The microbial presence in blood may also play a fundamental role as causative agent of systemic inflammation, which is a characteristic of Alzheimer’s disease.
“Furthermore, there is ample evidence that this can cause neuroinflammation and plaque formation.”
Dementia charities said they had noticed that viruses and bacteria were more common in people with Alzheimer's disease.
Dr James Pickett, Head of Research at Alzheimer’s Society said: “A large number of different microbes including viruses, bacteria and fungi have been found in the brains of older people - but there do appear to be more of them in the brains of people who have died with Alzheimer’s disease.
"While these observations are interesting and warrant further research, there is currently insufficient evidence to tell us that microbes are responsible for causing Alzheimer’s disease in the vast majority of cases. We would like to reassure people that there remains no convincing evidence that Alzheimer’s disease is contagious or can be passed from person to person like a virus.
“Given the enormous global impact of dementia, there is intense interest from the research community to understand all the potential contributing factors. We welcome research that explores all possible avenues and have committed £100 million over the next decade to more fully understand the causes of dementia and to improve diagnosis, treatment and prevention of the condition.”
Last year, researchers found that the 'seeds' of Alzheimer's could be passed through blood transfusions and medical accidents.
Prof John Hardy, Professor of Neuroscience, UCL, said: “This is a minority view in Alzheimer research. There had been no convincing proof of infections causing Alzheimer disease. We need always to keep an open mind but this editorial does not reflect what most researchers think about Alzheimer disease.”
Dr Simon Ridley, Director of Research at Alzheimer’s Research UK, said: “There is growing evidence for the role of the immune system in Alzheimer’s and active ongoing research looking at how an inflammatory response might contribute to the disease. There is some evidence to suggest that infections in general could ramp up the immune system and contribute to the progression of Alzheimer’s, but there isn’t conclusive evidence to suggest that a particular infectious agent or microbe could be directly responsible for causing the disease.
"There are many avenues being explored to understand the initial events that trigger the development of Alzheimer’s and this is an important part of the research process for ruling in and out particular hypotheses. There is no evidence that Alzheimer’s can be passed from person to person like a virus. Continued research funding into diseases like Alzheimer’s is important to build a clearer picture of the genetic and lifestyle risk factors for the disease and use this knowledge to develop preventions or treatments.”
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Hello. I will tell you my chlamydia caused prostatitis story and how I cured it or maybe I'm close to curing it... anyway, even if I'm not cured it may help someone else. Now it is almost 3 months since I stopped antibiotics and i'm still negative for chlamydia.

It took me 2 years. I went thru multiple one month long therapies with all standard antibiotics for chlamydia (mainly macrolides and tetracyclines). They reduced the symptoms enough for me to ignore them, but I still had symptoms and was still positive for chlamydia. The antibiotics did not brought any further relieve... it was like popping Tik-Tak. Then I did a thorough research and found that one of the most powerful antibiotics against chlamydia (and with excellent tissue penetration!) is rifampin. The catch? Well, chlamydia rapidly develops resistance to it and it fell out of favor...

In recent times, however, they found that when rifampin is taken with macrolide or tetracycline chlamydia does not develop resistance and the synergistic effect makes one powerful weapon against it. That was my hope.

I started one month therapy on azythormycin (beware, this antibiotic has long half life and should not be taken everyday!) and rifampin and my remaining symptoms started disappearing during the second week! I was peeing like a horse! One month after the therapy I was negative! And after another month I was positive again... but symptom free at last.

Then I started second one month therapy but used clarithormycin instead of azythomycin. Clarithromycin is newer macrolide and has the advantage to be taken every day (which is convenient for longer therapies). Supposedly it also has a bit better activity against chlamydia than azythormycin. So, I was negative again a month after the therapy... and then again positive!

Now I was really in despair and decided to poison myself with two month therapy on doxycyline and rifampin. And here I'm almost 3 months after the therapy and still negative and symptom free!

I don't think that doxy is better than clari. I think that the factors that helped me are the longer period on drugs and the use of two drugs. Actually I think that clarithromycin could do better job than doxy in this case. I never tried two months single drug therapy so I don't know if that would work...

I did this under monitoring of my uro. Don't do this without a medical advisory! Rifampin, especially when taken with other antibiotics, could melt your liver! Tetracycliens are bad for the stomach... and macrolides could bring you a heart attack! (but probably still less toxic than doxy).

I also advise you against prostate injections. It is outright quackery. It is probable that you will make your situation worse that way.

Also beware that frequent popping of antibiotics has many side effects. Like, for example, I was getting really annoying urethritis almost every time when I was on antibiotics (because they mess your normal urethral flora). I got staph. aureus, I got staph. epidermidis, I got enterococcus... Fine way to make your situation worse...

And one note on proper testing for chlamydia. Do PCR tests, please, All other tests could give false positives or false negatives. PCR is the most sensitive and can't give you false positive (well, technically it can, because it is so sensitive that it could detected chlamydial DNA a month after you killed it). The probability for false negative is also much lower. All you have to do is to collect 30-40ml of first catch urine in the morning and bring it to the lab. No swabs, no nothing... Being paranoid, I do all kinds of tests in different labs.

Here is the study that helped me to come up with this therapy:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2907099/

Bye.
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After about 7 years I've learned to avoid caffeine, I don't drink diet sodas either they contain aspartame and lock me up where I cannot urinate for hours. Only soda I will touch is sprite. I also avoid red colored drinks, red Gatorade makes me urinate every 30 mins. no problem with any other non-red color though.

Orgasm with a woman is normal, but by myself masturbating nothing their at all.

I feel stupid for wasting all the money I did on doctors, doctors do not have an answer to this problem, in fact many doctors hang their head low as protatitis when confronted with these patients, they are the patients that doctors do not want to treat or mess with, urologists refer to prostate suffers as "problem patients".

I once messaged a urologist that I used to see on facebook that retired 1 year earlier, and was asking him how retirement was. He said retirement was good and he was glad to be out of the urology business, he told me that the reason he retired was because of men with Chronic protatitis, he also said that many times he thought of hanging a sign on his door that said "If you suffer from Chronic Prostatitis please seek help elsewhere"

So people need to understand this before you end up thousands of dollars in debt, there is nothing they can do for you, if your family doctor has failed to cure your prostate condition with 2 weeks of antibiotics, then there is nothing the urologist can do, he can check your prostate and tell you if it's swollen or not like your family doctor, he can have you piss inside of a machine that looks like a small toilet and charge you $1800 and tell you that your urine flow is normal or slow (which you already knew so that machine is pointless), he can massage your prostate and catch the fluid and put it on a slide and tell you he believes their is an infection because of all the white blood cells in it and prescribe more antibiotics that don't work and then the next time he massages your prostate all of the white blood cells are gone and then he claims it is now all in your head and that you were cured with those antibiotics that he prescribed the last time even though it did nothing for your symptoms because he states your symptoms are all in your head.

Anyways, thought I'd type this for somebody who is ready to go in debt and and spend money he can't afford to pay for an expensive doctor that A. can not possible cure you B. and doesn't want to treat you in the first place. Though most of us who have suffered for over several or more years already know to avoid the doctors.

About all you can do is make lifestyle adjustments, or try some of that pelvic stretching stuff. Some people have had luck with physical therapists doing trigger point and pelvic massages and what not, maybe if you are bent on spending lots of money best to avoid the urologist altogether and try one of those guys instead.
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My hope is that this can be fixed with diet. I am interested in the ideas of the Weston A. Price Foundation. I liked that web knowthecause that some mentioned in this thread before.
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Hello. I will tell you my chlamydia caused prostatitis story and how I cured it or maybe I'm close to curing it... anyway, even if I'm not cured it may help someone else. Now it is almost 3 months since I stopped antibiotics and i'm still negative for chlamydia.

It took me 2 years. I went thru multiple one month long therapies with all standard antibiotics for chlamydia (mainly macrolides and tetracyclines). They reduced the symptoms enough for me to ignore them, but I still had symptoms and was still positive for chlamydia. The antibiotics did not brought any further relieve... it was like popping Tik-Tak. Then I did a thorough research and found that one of the most powerful antibiotics against chlamydia (and with excellent tissue penetration!) is rifampin. The catch? Well, chlamydia rapidly develops resistance to it and it fell out of favor...

In recent times, however, they found that when rifampin is taken with macrolide or tetracycline chlamydia does not develop resistance and the synergistic effect makes one powerful weapon against it. That was my hope.

I started one month therapy on azythormycin (beware, this antibiotic has long half life and should not be taken everyday!) and rifampin and my remaining symptoms started disappearing during the second week! I was peeing like a horse! One month after the therapy I was negative! And after another month I was positive again... but symptom free at last.

Then I started second one month therapy but used clarithormycin instead of azythomycin. Clarithromycin is newer macrolide and has the advantage to be taken every day (which is convenient for longer therapies). Supposedly it also has a bit better activity against chlamydia than azythormycin. So, I was negative again a month after the therapy... and then again positive!

Now I was really in despair and decided to poison myself with two month therapy on doxycyline and rifampin. And here I'm almost 3 months after the therapy and still negative and symptom free!

I don't think that doxy is better than clari. I think that the factors that helped me are the longer period on drugs and the use of two drugs. Actually I think that clarithromycin could do better job than doxy in this case. I never tried two months single drug therapy so I don't know if that would work...

I did this under monitoring of my uro. Don't do this without a medical advisory! Rifampin, especially when taken with other antibiotics, could melt your liver! Tetracycliens are bad for the stomach... and macrolides could bring you a heart attack! (but probably still less toxic than doxy).
Hello! I am glad you are cured. Could you answer these questions?

1) How did you get tested for clamidia? Urine culture? Semen Culture? Or only PCR? How do you know you didn't have any other infection?

2) Did you take clori, doxi or azithromicina any time before combining them with rifampil?

3) What were the dosages of your treatments?

4) What were your symptoms???

and especially

5) How did you get rifampin prescribed???? Do you have a trustworthy urologist that followed you during the treatment?

Thank you very much!
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Hi. I think its possible that if you use antibiotics time will come and you will be immune with that specific medicine.
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