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The Seth books were an incredible experience for me. It was like reading the truth for the first time that I always knew.

Osho has been a great path shower for me also. and then I was married in the Sufi tradition and did their practices for a time and feel very connected to that system too, but I for one, cannot and will not follow any one path but my own so the teaches have been many and I gleen the best and leave the rest to the BS mongers, power devotees and navigators.


But no one speaks more clearly than Seth to me regarding the big picture. The others were good for dealing with the worries and concerns of living in this body, culturally, socially, and in human heart to heart relationship.
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The Seth books were an incredible experience for me. It was like reading the truth for the first time that I always knew.

Osho has been a great path shower for me also. and then I was married in the Sufi tradition and did their practices for a time and feel very connected to that system too, but I for one, cannot and will not follow any one path but my own so the teaches have been many and I gleen the best and leave the rest to the BS mongers, power devotees and navigators.


But no one speaks more clearly than Seth to me regarding the big picture. The others were good for dealing with the worries and concerns of living in this body, culturally, socially, and in human heart to heart relationship.
Seth has had a huge impact upon a close friend. I know of Seth, but haven't read any of the books.

Osho, a controversial character, made me look at everything afresh. His quote, "Politicians and priests are the Mafia of the Soul", can't argue with that!

He helped me see the futility of many things, which is still ongoing! Religion is a major deterrent to the Truth! I view religion as mind control, and it works damn well unfortunately!

Here's an Osho video:-(contains a word beginning with f and ending in k which some people may find offensive)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6D7rWLzloOI

I also cannot belong or follow a particular system, always found doing so to be suffocating.

The Truth is within.
We are all One.

From the Sufi Way, Irina Tweedie, a lovely lady whom I could listen to all day!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1mFqZuEHsc

Sufi mystic ; Llewellyn Vaughan-Lee talks about " the one "

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iod_2...eature=related
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Here's something else to ponder in relation to NDE.

�Proof of Heaven� documents existence of afterlife, multiverse, intelligent life beyond Earth, multidimensional realities

https://thewatchers.adorraeli.com/201...nal-realities/
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Here's something else to ponder in relation to NDE.

�Proof of Heaven� documents existence of afterlife, multiverse, intelligent life beyond Earth, multidimensional realities

https://thewatchers.adorraeli.com/201...nal-realities/

Yes, I have heard something about this as well... It has been said that we have been visited by extra terrestrials, but they were on a different plane of existence to us. In the 5th dimension or something...

There was also talk about ancient civilizations that just up and vanished without a trace. No human remains were ever found, but clothes, tools, housing, even uneaten food was found at those sites, as if whatever happened happened in an instant.

So, what if, what happened was that these civilizations crossed into another dimension? Would such a thing be possible? Whatever happened, it is supposedly a cyclical thing.. Could the 3 days of darkness talked about in the bible and also other religions have been caused by a mass astral projection? And if so, what would cause that? What would cause a dimensional shift?

There have been stories as well of like in th bermuda triangle, finding those bombers and boats from 30 years ago, and they are still in pristine condition... So, where did they go? If they were really on the bottom of the ocean for thirty years, there would have been rust etc... Also, the really eery thing is that no human remains again were found in them... I'm seeing a pattern here...

It's almost as if "the rapture" or "the reckoning" is actually talking about people moving into another dimension/astral plain perhaps?

I find the whole thing fascinating... And if at some point we actually do move into another dimension, somehow... That would be pretty cool.

Some say that when we cross the galactic plane this December, the whole planet is going to shift.. Interesting, scary thought that... Not sure I buy into the whole doomsday thing, although when over-population becomes a problem on the planet, something usually happens to thin it out.. What's really weird is those stories where there are no human remains to be found.. Those are the ones which are most intriguing.. And they have happened all throughout history...
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I find the whole thing fascinating... And if at some point we actually do move into another dimension, somehow... That would be pretty cool.
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From what I’ve been reading that is exactly what is happening. No doomsday scenario here, unless you are one of the PTP who are desperately trying to hold on to the power that they have.
This is part of the 26,000 year cycle and the 2012 date marks the time when the entire solar system is moving into a higher vibrational dimension.
As a result it has been noted that the sun is already warming up and is brighter then before. So I’m sorry Al Gore but CO2 has nothing to do with this change, nor will your spraying of chemtrails prevent it from happening. The conscience of man is being increased and he is to become more personally spiritually aware and with this will not need the confines of an organized religion to dictate the correct path to follow because he will begin to inherently know the correct way.
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Well, I would hope that we, as human beings, do transcend into something that is more spiritually aware.... I am a cynic by nature. I have little faith in humanity, while acknowledging that we can, indeed, do great things.

I had a chance to thank "the source" yesterday. My wife and daughter were involved in an accident. Someone ran through a stop sign. If my wife had not pulled over to send a text message, she may have been hit on the passenger side, where my daughter was sitting, instead of hitting the car head on.

I grew up being cynical of religion. As I get older, I am becoming more involved in my own faith and working toward understanding things that are beyond our initial grasp.
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OK... So if we are vibrating into a higher existence, and this is a 26,000 year cycle... Where exactly do we go? It's not doomsday, but we just up and "poof" off the planet? Obviously some of us go, and some of us are left behind... But there are so many questions..

One would think that somewhere, someone would have a rulebook to tell us at least what game we are playing and the general rules to be followed...

Every 26,000 years huh... So... I guess my question would be... 26,000 Years ago, where did all the people go.. and where are we going to go...

I had a friend theorize that that is the big reason for so many new births in the world this year, is that whatever happens, however many people "shift" and don't shift, there will be enough left to repopulate the earth... But then, if we are entering this "shift" now... What about everyone before us who lived out their life and have since passed on? Do they miss out on this shift? Or did they just beat us to it?

Why even have this shift every 26,000 years? Is it to keep the planet from becoming too populated? What is the purpose...

*sigh... Of course, nobody can really tell me the answer....
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and on the other hand - what if nothing happens!!!

This year has been strange though. Time was speeding up, then November arrived and time has slowed down. That's what we feel anyway! So are things in place for this great event? As you say Tick, what will happen? None of us can say, but their are plenty of theories out there!
Imagine the collective let down IF nothing does happen
One thing for sure is we are living in interesting times
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Tick: From what I�ve been reading you are way closer to understanding the truth then you imagine. With the coming shift in frequency/conscience everything on the planet will be affected. This is an evolutionary change and there is no escaping it for those that are here. However for those who are comfortable with the way things are, these individual�s free will has priority. They will be somehow transferred to a new world(s) that are still at our current evolutionary state.

Revzen: So you have read Lobsang Ramba why does that not surprise me after all you have said? Maybe because I have a stack of his books sitting on my bookshelf.
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Tick: From what I�ve been reading you are way closer to understanding the truth then you imagine. With the coming shift in frequency/conscience everything on the planet will be affected. This is an evolutionary change and there is no escaping it for those that are here. However for those who are comfortable with the way things are, these individual�s free will has priority. They will be somehow transferred to a new world(s) that are still at our current evolutionary state.

Revzen: So you have read Lobsang Ramba why does that not surprise me after all you have said? Maybe because I have a stack of his books sitting on my bookshelf.

Hmmm... So basically, the people that are ready will move on, and those that aren't will be stuck here.. Wow, that brings a whole new conundrum.. What if I think I'm ready, but in the end, for some reason I am left behind?

It would sort of be like that movie "Left Behind", where the preacher was left behind as well..

Of course that is all slanted toward Christianity/Catholicism.. But if you start to really dig into the world religions there are common elements..

Some sort of "Rapture", "Reckoning", "Transcendence", "Rebirth", are all prominent.

But again begs the question, you know what if I think I'm ready, and other people "go", and I'm still here?

Also, to get to the other point of Revzen, I have a really bad feeling that December 22nd is going to be a day when there will be a lot of suicides and depression because nothing did happen (If nothing does happen of course).

Think of that comet where they all killed themselves to hitch a ride, but on a scale far bigger.. There's actually an end of the world party in France going to take place... Hundreds of Thousands of people possibly more.. I hope they don't decide to drink the kool aid....
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Hmmm... So basically, the people that are ready will move on, and those that aren't will be stuck here.. .
Ah no that is backwards. If you stay you will ascend to a higher dimension along with everyone and everything else on the planet. However those that like the idea of living in our current 3D world would be then �transported�(??) to a new 3D world, but only if that is what they wish.
This is to start in December and will take about a year to complete. Talk about living in interesting times.

To learn more you can go to the following site; and read �A new awakening�.

I�m going to take a wild guess and say you probably have never read anything like this, or from a source like this before. I make no claims for or against this source, as it is solely up to you decide whether to accept or reject what is said. But I think you will find it interesting.

https://www.andromedacouncil.com/index.html
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Ah no that is backwards. If you stay you will ascend to a higher dimension along with everyone and everything else on the planet. However those that like the idea of living in our current 3D world would be then �transported�(??) to a new 3D world, but only if that is what they wish.
This is to start in December and will take about a year to complete. Talk about living in interesting times.

To learn more you can go to the following site; and read �A new awakening�.

I�m going to take a wild guess and say you probably have never read anything like this, or from a source like this before. I make no claims for or against this source, as it is solely up to you decide whether to accept or reject what is said. But I think you will find it interesting.

https://www.andromedacouncil.com/index.html
Yes, but the thing is.. That my thought there may have been backward, but if the whole Earth along with those ready vibrates or goes to a new existence, then from the perspective of those left behind then it would be the same..

Those that aren't ready will be left in a world wondering why... Will there be an explanation of that for the people that are "left behind". It is the same premise as what I have said might happen to me "left behind" but if we as a world vibrate off into another plane then those left behind would experience much the same experience as what I described I would? IE wondering what the heck happened?
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Tick: From what I�ve been reading you are way closer to understanding the truth then you imagine. With the coming shift in frequency/conscience everything on the planet will be affected. This is an evolutionary change and there is no escaping it for those that are here. However for those who are comfortable with the way things are, these individual�s free will has priority. They will be somehow transferred to a new world(s) that are still at our current evolutionary state.

Agree with you Mad Scientist

Revzen: So you have read Lobsang Ramba why does that not surprise me after all you have said? Maybe because I have a stack of his books sitting on my bookshelf.
I was 12 when I stumbled upon a copy of my brother's, "The Third Eye" by Lobsang Rampa. Which in later years mystified me because said brother has no interest in this subject matter - the G_d he worships is money! I went on to read all of Lobsang's books! Absolutely wonderful books which I'd recommend to anyone!!!

Getting back to 2012 and will it won't it happen!!! I believe something will happen. I'm with the Mad Scientist in believing that their will be a mass awakening, which will be triggered by our Sun. Something magical will happen and those who are in tune with events will be transformed. We are witnessing people waking up to the fact that the current system is, and in reality, always has been flawed - but not if you belong to the so called "elites"! The "elites" have been behind the flawed system and have steered the direction of the three poisons - education, religion and politics for their benefit.

But now people are waking up to this fact and the tide of consciousness is changing, and the "elites" are panicking! Soon their will be a huge eruption! It is obvious we can't carry on as we are because the destination is oblivion, and one thing the Source doesn't do is Oblivion!

Mad Scientist, have you listened to any of Alex Colliers presentations?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQWEw_RmmCA

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Ok.. So we can just "opt out" of higher consciousness? That is seriously an option? People, after being presented with all the facts, would honestly go back and really accept less? I guess it has always be said that ignorance is bliss, but for me... Not knowing is the true slavery... Although, I could be wrong... Am I wrong in that the whole concept of "Knowledge is power" has actually gone to pot? Everyone would rather NOT KNOW what it is that happens around them? And they would be happier NOT KNOWING? That is kind of hard to swallow, but I guess that it actually does make sense....

Sad though... I mean... Those that opt for "Utopia" in exchange for not knowing anything... That to me is almost like some inner circle of hell... How can someone who is enjoying it all, not eventually wonder about the less fortunate? Although, I guess that gets into the realm of "out of sight, out of mind"... If you can't see it, who cares...

I guess that works for some people, but does it really work for the majority of people?
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