around 2 months ago I woke up and my left knee was stiff, tender, swollen. After a month it finally got somewhat better and then I started treadmill, stairmachine again and unloaded a truck for 2 days. BIG MISTAKE. Was much worse. I started wearing a flexible knee brace and taking an occaisional ALEVE. Then I started jointvibrance (natural stuff, glucosomine, chondroiten, MSM, Boswellia, Turmeric extract plus other stuff). This morning I woke up and it feels great. I will be ever so careful for the next month GRADUALLY getting back into it.

Glad to hear your knee is feeling better and that supplement is helping. There are so many people with knee issues, even at the gym. I've noticed slight knee discomfort now that I'm exercising and doing things like squats and lunges. I think in my case it's because the muscles surrounding the knees aren't very strong yet. Hope you continue to improve.

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Just go slow. I am hitting the gym tonight and just doing 5 minutes on a stair stepper, them chest and shoulders and triceps. I will do ONE set of leg extensions at a low weight. I am getting back in very slowly.

We've another weather/temps change in effect & my left knee esp is killing me. More snow tomorrow pm & Friday.
Using Ben Gay ointment helps for a few hours but not all day. They don't recommend constant
repeated applications.

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The physical therapist at the gym told me arthritis and I get an occasional clicking when I move the knee, but its getting better, I just do not want to screw it up again. This lack of aerobic exercise is killing me.

From https://www.dmso.org/articles/information/muir.htm

Stephen Edelson, MD, F.A.A.F.P., F.A.A.E.M., who practices medicine at the Environmental and Preventive Health Center of Atlanta, has used DMSO extensively for 4 years. "We use it intravenously as well as locally," he says. "We use it for all sorts of inflammatory conditions, from people with rheumatoid arthritis to people with chronic low back inflammatory-type symptoms, silicon immune toxicity syndromes, any kind of autoimmune process.
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Yet laboratory studies have indicated that DMSO's capacity as a free-radical scavenger suggests an important role for it in arthritis.13 The Committee of Clinical Drug Trials of the Japanese Rheumatism Association conducted a trial with 318 patients at several clinics using 90 percent DMSO and concluded that DMSO relieved joint pain and increased range of joint motion and grip strength, although performing better in more recent cases of the disease.14 It is employed widely in the former Soviet Union for all the different types of arthritis, as it is in other countries around the world.

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I need to get some and its cheap. The reason why big pharma hates it.

Is there any reason not to use DMSO topically? I thought I remember a long time ago, some bad side-effects. I even think I bought some, and then threw it out.

It has to be pharmaceutical grade because any impurities dissolved in it will get absorbed. Also, make sure you rinse your knee with war water before using it to make sure no soap is on it. The CIA in the 1970s used DMSO in japan to kill communists. They would wait until some commie party member went into a restaurant and took their shoes off. Then they would place some cyanide laced DMSO into their shoes.

What if you use the flexable knee brace or wrap your knee (ace bandage) for your workouts?

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This probably is not related to your knee condition, but it was an interesting discovery.

I also have two bad knees, and both have bothered me when going on a long bike ride, such as the 130 mile ride I go on once a year. The last ride, my right knee did not want to recover from the ride. Very unusual. It did heal eventually.

Later on, I treated myself for the Porhpyromonas gingivalis bacteria using Rife frequency treatments. I did this because of bad gums, and this bacteria is often responsible for inflammation in this area.

When I treated myself, the side of my right knee hurt while the machine was running. Later runs did not produce this effect. I am fairly sure that I had this bacteria in the muscle or ligament of the knee. I have not had one bit of pain in that knee since that time.

So now I have one bad knee. The other appears to be healed.

Lyme disease often show itself when a knee is injured also. Just a few knee anecdotes.

Dan

Interesting tidbits Dan.

130 mile ride is quite a distance! I have a mt. bike but it's getting more & more intimidating to me to just jump on it & go for a spin. The older ya get, the more it hurts when you fall

I did that last thursday for a short stair machine, no problems. Friday I just did 6 minutes on the treadmill: MISTAKE! I will hit the gym in about 4 hrs and do a short stair machine, then back and biceps.

Do you like to swim?

A few weeks I went to another gym. Did not happen, the knee could not take it. I went twice after that and used a float device that you squeeze with your thighs and did upper body swims. I went sun again and did the same but was able to kick a little bit. Its improving, slowly, but definitely.