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And extreme detail here ]]> Arrowwind09 http://www.natmedtalk.com/blogs/arrowwind09/30-ormus-video.html http://www.natmedtalk.com/blogs/arrowwind09/29-ormus.html Fri, 06 Nov 2009 20:51:12 GMT *Starting to look into somthing new. and likely extremely important to our personal and collective evolution and will match if not excede anything I... Starting to look into somthing new. and likely extremely important to our personal and collective evolution and will match if not excede anything I have brought to this forum

Starting with this radio program by Barry Carter on Coast to Coast.

Listen to the first 3 programs on this page to start to learn about Ormus. More will come later including instructions on making Ormus.
http://www.beyondtheordinary.net/barrycarter.shtml ]]> Arrowwind09 http://www.natmedtalk.com/blogs/arrowwind09/29-ormus.html http://www.natmedtalk.com/blogs/arrowwind09/27-ships-part-6.html Tue, 20 Oct 2009 04:14:55 GMT OMG! OMG! OMG! I have found a path to Helios after years of searching for him. ... OMG! OMG! OMG!

I have found a path to Helios after years of searching for him.

http://www.achieveradio.com/archplay...Net-Cosmic.mp3

I can't say how excited I am..
Soon, soon we will connect again! Here he is in an interview.

Vortex Network News Cosmic Connections
“Visual Contact Protocols & Experiences to Analogue the Process that Sets the Stage For First Contact”
Sep 26, 2009 at 11:00AM

Michael’s special guest, Helios, discusses about his many experiences with the Federation of Light and also specifically about what he terms “Visual Contact Protocols and experiences to analogue the process that sets the stage for the upcoming First Contact” and mass planetary Divine Intervention. Here is a synopsis from him, that partly describes some of his background: “Helios, who claims to actually be Ellie Hyperion, born as Mark A. Culkin presents himself as a direct spokesperson for the Jerusalem Command [which is referred to in Dr. J.J. Hurteck’s book ‘The Book of Knowledge, the 64 Keys of Enoch’. The Jerusalem Command, by the way, works very closely with the Ashtar Command], Aleph Hyperion, the Seventh Fleet of Yaashar and the Galactic Federation of Light of Triteria on the whole. Since early childhood innumerable appearances of superluminal vehicles of light, known in many cases as Mercavah or Merkabah, having regularly appeared performing a vast panoply of different event categories repeated almost ad infinitum over a lifetime of 50 years beginning at the age of five. This led to in recent years running battles with black operations and actual federal incarceration for years following years filming these events in Montana which included all out Star Wars in the Valley of Peace outside of Helena.
The manifold odysseys and adventures of his mission have led him down so very many pathways of investigation and research in to alternative solutions for advancing human affairs as well. Helios was born at high noon in Berlin, (1953) Germany with the name of Kulki in congress or keeping with long standing, prophetic traditions of the return of Elijah, who is thought to be the same as Kulki and Parsival by German and Vedic occultists well versed on these matters. He boasts virtually unrivaled expertise in visual contact analogue and experience.”

http://HealthGalleria.com, ChannelFortheMasters.com, ProgressiveTechCenter.org, VortexToursofSedona.com, UFOwest.com, UFOSkyWatch.com, Intalek.com, PrepareFortheLandings.com

.....................

So I have been dreaming of changes lately. Dreaming of ships, seeing ships, talking with ships. Learning how I might call in the changes I seek. Reading books on making contact. Releasing myself from distractions. Getting ready to accept new and good things, new and expanded experience... this I have been doing for months now. Learning to let go.... to release house and home and children to go on and meet their own destiny. ]]> Arrowwind09 http://www.natmedtalk.com/blogs/arrowwind09/27-ships-part-6.html http://www.natmedtalk.com/blogs/arrowwind09/26-our-worst-fear-nelson-mandela.html Fri, 16 Oct 2009 15:08:05 GMT Our worst fear is not that we are inadequate, Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our Light, not our darkness that most... Our worst fear is not that we are inadequate,
Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure.
It is our Light, not our darkness that most frightens us.
We ask ourselves, "Who am I to be brilliant, gorgeous, talented and fabulous?"
Actually who are you not to be?
You are a child of God;
Your playing small doesn't serve the world.

There is nothing enlightened about Shrinking so that other people
won't feel insecure around you.
We were born to make manifest the glory of God within us.
It is not just in some of us, it is in everyone and as we let our own light shine we unconsciously give other people permission to do the same.

As we are liberated from our own fear our presence automatically Liberates others. ]]> Arrowwind09 http://www.natmedtalk.com/blogs/arrowwind09/26-our-worst-fear-nelson-mandela.html http://www.natmedtalk.com/blogs/kevin/24-health-heavy-spam-topic.html Wed, 24 Jun 2009 18:39:10 GMT Spam is always a big problem for forums; health is one of the most spammed topics. No wonder health forum is the target of all kinds of spammers, and... Spam is always a big problem for forums; health is one of the most spammed topics. No wonder health forum is the target of all kinds of spammers, and it's not easy to keep a health forum clean.

If a member comes here only for promoting websites, he will be banned immediately to save both his and my time. People who post for links only create non-sense posts, which is very annoying and bothers every one. These kind of posts look legitimate but if you look into them, you will find they talk about nothing at all, they don't read before they reply.

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Members: 1,000 ]]> Kevin http://www.natmedtalk.com/blogs/kevin/24-health-heavy-spam-topic.html http://www.natmedtalk.com/blogs/arrowwind09/23-thixotrophy.html Thu, 11 Jun 2009 23:47:02 GMT Importance and Value of Exercise for Health So you’ve got the great diet now! Been to the Naturopath, talked to the nutritionist. Started raw... Importance and Value of Exercise for Health


So you’ve got the great diet now! Been to the Naturopath, talked to the nutritionist. Started raw foods, making your own green juices, delighting in grass fed organic meats, eating lots of wild fish and taking your expertly selected supplements. But you still feel down and out?

Try exercise. All the good nutrition in the world will not prolong your life and provide good health if you don’t get up and shake it around!

Good nutrition will have limited results unless you use your body the way nature intended. Back in the old days people had to work for a living. I mean really work. Not press keys at a computer, shuffle papers around or walk from one boardroom to another. I mean work. Unthinkables like tilling the field, digging the rutabagas, washing the clothes by hand, grinding the corn. You know. All those awful tasks that we, thank God, don’t have to do anymore. But what have we replaced those tasks with? Television, prepared foods, Internet searches, and a multitude of jobs that require little or no movement of the body. In reality, those tasks that our ancestors did may have lengthened life not shorted it as we like to presume. Our ancestors had exercise built into their daily regimen. It was mandatory that they do it to survive.

If yester year’s tasks were combined with today’s exceptional knowledge in nutrition we would be living longer and in superior health.

Lets look at what they did and what it could do for you.

Chopping wood – builds upper body mass and increases oxygenation
Hauling water – weight bearing exercise that will increase bone mass
Digging rutabagas – stretches ligaments and promotes flexibility
Hanging laundry – stretches long torso muscles, exposes skin to sunlight, lungs to fresh air
Horseback or carriage riding to market – jostles the lymphatic system and encourages toxins to move
Walking to market – aerobic exercise with a weight-bearing component on the return trip.
Washing clothes – aerobic activity. Probably reduces stress when angry also!
Baking whole grain bread – gets you off the couch and moving. Kneading dough provides upper body exercise with a mild aerobic component.
Stoking the wood stove – also gets you off the couch.

Our ancestors benefited in the following ways just by doing the everyday tasks that life demanded. Those tasks provide for the following:



1. Relieves stress
2. Promotes oxygenation
3. Increases circulation
4. Stimulates lymphatic flow
5. Stimulates the digestive tract to peristaltic action
6. Boosts the immune system
7. Burns calories and reduces weight
8. Increases muscle mass
9. Promotes and maintains bone density


Now I’m not saying that you should give up your car and plant a rutabaga patch but what you need to do is start walking everyday, incorporate activities that include body action like baking bread, or planting in the garden and raking your own leaves instead of paying someone else to do it. 15 minutes on a mini trampoline will do what the horse and carriage did without all the extraneous activities we would mostly prefer to avoid.

Most people who tell you to exercise don’t really understand fully why it is so beneficial. Yea, building muscle mass, burning calories. All the same stuff we’ve heard for years. But here’s the real reason: Thixotrophy!

Thixotrophy tells us that certain colloids within the protoplasma of the body have a tendency to form a solid gel. In this gel are a multitude of things like starches, minerals, vitamins, and physiological toxins. When this gel is shaken thrixotrophy occurs and the gel becomes a solution, capable of transport again. So if you spend your time gellen in a chair or on the sofa you are literally solidifying your protoplasma. When you get up and move it around, literally shake it, it transforms into a solution again and becomes physiologically available for transport. These directions of transport are varied. It could be sugars being made available for combustion in an intercellular chemical reaction, it could be minerals trying to move in and out of a cell, it could be toxins moving through the lymphatic system on their way to the skin, the kidneys or the portal vein for removal. Also, nutrients don’t get to go to where you need them most. If you don’t shake all this stuff up they move real slow, causing toxic buildup and all kinds of congestion throughout the body as well as nutritional deficiencies.

For those cold stormy days when outside exercise seems to be the insurmountable task get on a mini trampoline for about 15 m minutes to keep from gellen.

When you exercise you will find that the benefits of your super nutritional program will start to take effect in ways you could not anticipate. You will be stronger, clearer and happier because the nutrients are being better assimilated, transported and utilized and toxins will be better circulated out of the body. All those antioxidants you are now taking will truly be creating a cleaner and healthier internal environment.
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10 new members and 100 new posts per day. ]]> Kevin http://www.natmedtalk.com/blogs/kevin/22-amazing-ranking.html http://www.natmedtalk.com/blogs/arrowwind09/18-ships-part-2.html Tue, 12 May 2009 13:33:29 GMT I was living in Kansas City. I had just started my professional work and was working in a hospital for my first year. I had gone to Kansas City to... I was living in Kansas City. I had just started my professional work and was working in a hospital for my first year. I had gone to Kansas City to become a Unity Minister but realized that this was a mistake. I had suddenly woke up one day and knew it was time to leave and return to Santa Fe. On my trip back to Santa Fe I was overwhelmed with this idea that I was going to see space ships. That it was actually time for me to see ships. And my mind obscessed on it for the 700 mile trip home. I couldn't sleep. I Stopped in a motel but it was useless. Fantasies ran through my head. Feelings emerged that I had not known for a very long time. This tied in with a very old feeling that I had had since a child. The feeling that to see ships was my destiny and right. The feeling overwhelmed me that this experience was necessary and that it was going to happen. 



But how? I knew nothing of it. Although I had had friends back in California who had seen them I was not a part of it. 



When I arrived in Santa Fe I had no place to live. I was invited to stay with a friend that I had met only most briefly and casually a year earlier until I found a place. Turns out that this lovely lady was an intuitive. She had the gift of smell on the etheric plain and she told me that she could smell the divine essence of ascended masters and loving beings that reside on the other side yet are mysteriously close to us.



Minor anxiety attacks plagued me this week. I knew no one. But why the anxiety. I had been in this position before. I just needed to deep breathe and let it happen. Guidance had told me that I was to be here so there I was. Ready to receive good things. Surely a room would be provided before long. In about a week I moved into a cooperative household in a beautiful adobe just off of Canyon Road. We were five like-minded women who were into exploring our souls potential in this physical reality. From them I learned about a workshop taught by a Cherokee woman named Oh Shinna Fastwolf and I decided to attend.

There I met a man named Helios whom I felt fantastically drawn to immediately. He seemed to be accompanied by several other people, One, a huge black Sikh man who wore a white turban. They were an interesting crew of folks.

At one point during the workshop Helios asked Oh Shinna Fast Wolf if she knew anything about people who had the anterior fontanel of their skull open. I do not remember the exact reply but all in all what came out was that some people are connected to the sun and that an open fontanel is a sign and they usually have special powers. Helios had a fontanel that was fully open. You could feel the pulse in his brain through the soft spot. 



I started asking around about Helios. Who was he. What was he up to. That’s when I heard that his purpose was to take people to see ships. It was clear to me then that he already knew the answer to his question about the open fontanel. 



Woah! this was - this was astounding! Someone who could take people to see ships? I made sure that the two day workshop did not end without his phone number in my pocket.

It took a few days to make the call. The negative mind started to harass me. This isn't real. He’s just one of those new age flunkies, trying to take your money, your power.

Finally I made the call. He said that he didn’t know if he could take me to see the ships. He would have to meet me and see how it went. Well, if that wasn’t intimidating, getting sized up for worthiness. 



He came to my house the next evening. We talked for a while. He wanted to know why I wanted to see ships. All I could say was that I felt that I was suppose to. Not very convincing or dramatic. 



A few nights latter one of his folks called and asked me to come over to Helios’ house, so I did. There wasn’t much happening. He told me that we needed to meditate. I was shown to sit on the floor and follow them. There were, aside from Helios, his girl friend, a pretty lithe blonde, two other men, and the man in the white turban. They all started to do a chant of words I had not heard before. Then this was followed by Kundalini breathing exercises, then that was it. No one was going to see ships tonight but a few stories were offered by the Sikh man on his experiences in seeing them. He seemed as astounded telling the story as he would have been the day that it happened.

On the mantel above the fireplace there was a book surrounded by white candles and sweet grass smudge. The book appeared to be like white leather, large, thick with gold on the edge of the leaves. Embossed in gold across the front was the title "The Keys of Enoch" by Joseph Hurtak.


A few days later I receive a call telling me to get ready. It was Helios and he said that tonight was the night. He also told me that he new it was right to take me because after he left my house the first night he entered my courtyard to pass on to his car and he looked up to the sky and saw a stralium flair, a clear sign to him that this was to happen. 



So that evening I again went to Helios’ house. The same people were there. Again we did meditation and kundalini breathing exercises. We got into the car, and If I remember right, two cars of people went. I rode in the front seat next to Helios as we headed up toward Espanola, New Mexico. From there we headed into the mountains to the west off the road that headed up to Los Alamos not too far from the turn off, into forest service land, Helios said. It was suppose to be the best place to see ships.

First, if my memory recalls right, we turned up the road that heads to Los Alamos then just a short way up that we headed to the right into the sagebrush. As we were driving the shadow of the mountains were sillouted by the night sky as we headed towards them. My crazy mind was acting up. What was I doing? I must be nuts, In the middle of the night with these excentric people going to look for space ships. I must be crazy. I’m out of my mind. I can’t believe I’m doing this. I started chattering about it. I felt like I was having some kind of existential breakdown. All the faces around me were smiling. I felt like I was in a Friday night Twilight Zone serial. 



The suddenly it happended. Across the perfectly clear night sky just above the silouhetted mountain a blaze of light bolted cross the sky like a double Z laying on its side. “MY GOD! WHAT WAS THAT, ” I exclaimed, nearly jumping over the dashboard to somehow see closer, to see better. 



“A stralium flair.” said Helios. He was as excited as I was. “Just like I saw outside your house that night I came over.” The others in the back seat did not see it. 



We went up a dirt road to the mountains, into the woods and came to a place where the view out into the valley where Espanola resides was wide open. You could look across the valley to the Taos Mountains in the east. I suppose we were in the Jemez mountains but to this day I have not looked at a map to try to figure it out.. 



When we arrived at a parking area we all got out and looked across the valley below. Helios gathered us into a group and we did some Kundalini breathing exercises. This was to prepare us, to open us to possibilities. 



So there we were. Gazing out but didn’t see anything. Several hours went by and didn’t see anything. People were getting bored and talking of going home. It was after 1 am.

After some time people walked off into the forest and so did I. As it was getting quite late I was starting to feel tired. In the woods I found a clear area where the trees circled around, I layed down on the ground and gazed at the sky. The stars were clear and bright in the little circle of heaven surround by tree tips above, and no ships to see. 



Out of boredom I guess I started to count the stars in the circle of sky. There were not too many. Not like the whole milkyway was displayed as I often saw on the rooftop of the house that I lived in, in Arroyo Hondo, several years before. 



Suddenly as I counted the stars I started to see them move. I rubbed my eyes and refocused. They were clearly moving. It was as though they were forming patterns of triangles, one star would hold an apex position then move to point the triangle into another direction. I started to get excited and called the others. Soon about 5 of us were laying in this little meadow watching the stars move. They clearly appeared to look only like stars. Except for this unusual behavior you would think that they were just stars. They had told me that they had seen this kind of phenomena before. 



It just kept happening and happening and after a time I was getting tired. It seemed strange that one would just get up an go while watching this phenomena but after a while it got old. We all agreed it was time to go home as it seemed that was all that was going to happen tonight. 



We got up and returned to the area where the cars were parked. Helios was already there. It was about 2am on a Thursday. Down below to the valley floor were some lights and they were moving across the valley floor at what seemed to be a high speed to me. Hard to have perspective in the night with distance and speed but it seemed fast. And unlike as if they were the lights of a vehicle they remained constant as though no hill or tree blocked them from view as they moved across the terrain below us. The other single most distinctive feature was that they were shaped as somewhat golden 4 pointed stars, but not like stars in the heavens. These lights were close! ]]> Arrowwind09 http://www.natmedtalk.com/blogs/arrowwind09/18-ships-part-2.html http://www.natmedtalk.com/blogs/arrowwind09/21-ships-part-5.html Tue, 12 May 2009 13:28:14 GMT I did not understand that my days in Santa Fe would be short. It was the most interesting place I had ever been. The level of energy kept my mind and... I did not understand that my days in Santa Fe would be short. It was the most interesting place I had ever been. The level of energy kept my mind and heart moving at a pace that I really enjoyed.

During my workshop with Oh Shinna Fastwolf, that workshop where I met Helios, I was taught a technique to break bondage to another being. I had been having dreams about Ron. It was like I felt his presence stalking me in the night. Oh Shinna said to take a crystal in your hand into bed with you and try to hold it for the night. Command your self in your dreams to see and travel upon the webs that bind you and when you see the person in your dream who is binding you at the end of the webs slash the webs and be free.

I did exactly this. I saw a white shinning web bound from my solar plexus stretched across space and time that I traveled along and when I came to the end of it there was Ron. I slashed the web with my crystal and sped back to my body. I felt a great relief.

Shortly after Frank Alper's visited I had decided that I needed to go to El Paso to study to become a midwife. I had made arrangements with the school and planned to leave in early September.

Then one day about a week before I was due to depart I awoke with a feeling of trepidation. Anxious and feeling like I was being stalked I instantly decided that I must leave Santa Fe right away. Like immediately. I threw everything in the car, bid a quick farewell to my stunned roommates and found myself in El Paso that night.

When I called to check on my cat a few days later my roommate Joanne told me that Max was fine and that they were delighted to care for him but that Ron had appeared at the door only a couple of hours after I left looking for me. He said that he was in town for a Grateful Dead concert at the Racetrack. They knew of the cutting ceremony I had done in the astral plane so they now clearly understood my flight. I never heard from Ron or saw him again and I often wondered if that cutting of the web saved me from him finding me in Santa Fe. I was quite pleased with the results it seemed to bring.

After I was settled in El Paso I can to understand that my destiny held something else other than Ron, than ships, than the splendors of New Mexico. But I knew not what and I silently mourned inside for people and times that would now be lost to me as I jumped into the mysteries and challenges of becoming a midwife.

*****************************


I filled our teacups again. The heat from the cups warmed our cooling hands. It was time to stoke Cherokee, the wood stove and prepare for the coming cold at days end. The sun sat low on the horizon over Arroyo Seco and the sky was cast a deep orange and red.

“So, Kathleen, this is how it has been. Do you think me too crazy?”

"I think not."

"What do you think then?"

"I think you have a story that needs to be told. People need to know that creating any reality is within their power...and that the reality that they create is as broad and grande and powerful as their longing and their hearts desire. ...but it will never be created unless they know that all things are possible, as you have known all along, and that the possibilities before you unfold only as you dare to dream and accept as living truth."

The chill of the evening was overcome by Cherokee's fire. I retired for the night knowing that what had happened happened because I had created it and that gave me strength and courage to go on... to move on into further explorations of consciousness and the sacred dream. ]]> Arrowwind09 http://www.natmedtalk.com/blogs/arrowwind09/21-ships-part-5.html http://www.natmedtalk.com/blogs/arrowwind09/20-ships-part-4.html Tue, 12 May 2009 13:27:37 GMT About a week later (1983) I attended a workshop by a Randall Baer. He was teaching about crystals and the power of crystal formations, patterns for... About a week later (1983) I attended a workshop by a Randall Baer. He was teaching about crystals and the power of crystal formations, patterns for healing, awakening, and in essence sacred geometry. In the middle of the workshop he held up the book “The Keys of Enoch” 
He said it was the cornerstone of his work and his channeling. Most of his work came from channeling, as that of his wife, Vicky. Was this book their bible too? 



Well, hell. I got the book and at over $150 dollars it was a stretch. And I couldn’t read it. I just couldn’t absorb what it was trying to say. I would read paragraph after paragraph and came out of it with an empty head after an hour of endeavor. But like a good little student I kept reading the empty words over and over. Now I knew how kids in bible school felt.

Finally one day in the midst of my mindless reading something happened. It was like the pages opened up before my eyes and I could see and hear and know what the Keys were trying to tell me. The revelation brought a body rush of energy and I was changed after that. I knew what I did not know before.

Randall Baer, how can I describe him? I don’t think I can so I will not try. I will say that he is into light and sound therapy and sacred geometry and crystals. He does these healings for people. You go to his place and he has a room with a reclining chair and above you suspended from the ceiling is a grid of pyramids made of copper tubing with quartz crystals attached to them along the length of the copper tubing. The room is darkened and music is put on. Things like Steven Halpern through headphones, but I could not say for sure that it was. Then the light show begins and sacred Hebrew letters are projected amidst all the lights flashing around. 



As for how all this made me feel physically I cannot report much except deep relaxation. But it was after this that things started to change. That’s when the Keys started to make sense and when I started to travel consciously in the etheric realm. It is when I learned how to cut cords that bind and when I decided to become a midwife and when I found a book by Frank Alper and decided that he needed to come to Santa Fe to teach me, and of course any other person who wanted such learning.


Frank Alpers books are still available at Amazon.com: Online Shopping for Electronics, Apparel, Computers, Books, DVDs & more. (I just rechecked and I can not find a link to Franks books at Amazon now but I did find this page. I don't know if it will come up for you. Amazon.com: Prayers to the Great Creator: Prayers and Declarations for a Meaningful Life: Julia Cameron: Books ) and here:
BookFinder.com: Search Results (Matching Titles)
and here is a list of his books:

Frank Alper
Exploring Atlantis, No I
Exploring Atlantis Volume I Related Through the Soul of Rev. Dr. Frank Alper
Exploring Atlantis, No II (Exploring Atlantis) By Alper, Frank
Exploring Atlantis, Volume 3 (III, Three)
Exploring Atlantis. Volume 1 and 2 Only of 3 Volumes
Universal Healing Rays
Universal Law for the Aquarian Age
Frank Alper: Information from Answers.com
sixpointedstar

These books I just stumbled upon in a metaphysical bookstore. They are written by a new age Jewish man who one day started to channel beings from the lost civilization of Atlantis and even times before. It captivated me. I needed to know more. And most of all I had to learn more about his channeling. Channeling was not new to me but the best way to learn about something is to fully bring it into your circle.

I presented to my sister roommates all my stories of seeing ships of course. They were fully there with me in spirit if not experience. They agreed that bringing Frank to Santa Fe would be a natural progression. 



I called Frank Alper. About a month later he was in my home in Santa Fe. 



Since some of my roommates were adept at the skill of forming workshops already we had a full house scheduled for our sizable living room in no time. It was well over 100 people signed up. I would say that the event pulled every new age wacko out of the woodwork that has been long hiding in Santa Fe and into the light of the event. 


Frank was a very gentle man who picked no bones about anything. At once you felt, or rather should I say, I felt to be in the presence of Father. He emitted a warm supportive and protective envelope of trust and security just by his presence. His aura was huge and could contain many. 



On the day of the lecture Frank stood in our living room near the fireplace. Oaxaca rugs and adobe surroundings filled with skylight made the room especially inviting to the 100 or so people who did arrive. We never did count them all. It was a warm early fall day. 



Then Frank started to speak and all fell silent to the channeling of ancient beings that continue to exist in other realms just next to ours. Their wisdom was profound and I was spell bound. I had never heard wisdom SPOKEN like this by anyone anywhere ever before. It way surpassed his books. My dear friend who "Knew" through her intuitive sense of smell said the the room was heavy with the smell of roses most of the time, but that different entities brought different scents with them. 



The day proceeded with one revelation moving on to the next. People asked question. It was difficult then as much so as it is today to tell you what was said. I was taken by the energy. It was different that reading a book who's words did not find a resting place in my head as reading the Keys of Enoch had in the beginning. These words found a place. But it was almost like they were so sacred I could not voice them. They reside in me today as an energetic imprint and are the fabric of a part of my being. What I can tell you for sure is that in that room on that day we were encompassed in a cocoon of love. All of us. We all felt it and were impacted. Looking into the eyes of the people as they left, well, there was bliss and peace there. We had all been changed. Our hearts and minds had been opened in a new way.


That evening our core group which did include at this time Frank Alper, Helios and his crew, my roommates and a few others who had come to the workshop decided that to top the day off a pilgrimage to the mountain was called for. 



We got into our cars and headed up to the mountain on the west side of Espanola where we had seen ships weeks before. We would just go there and be, play music and celebrate these good feelings. Maybe 20 or 30 people in all. We had a harpist and drummers with us. 



Into the woods we went, to the clearing where I had seen the ships forming geometric pattern high in the sky previously. The music started and many of us just layed on the ground if for any other reason, just to get grounded after the long day of ascension. 



That’s when things really started to happen!

Many of us fell into a slumber and had wild dreams. My dear friend John S (all these Johns!) awoke to tell of being taken in to a ship. Others had the same report. I too fell asleep but did not awaken with such recall. I was awakened by someone to take my attention to the ridgeline of the mountain. I rose, feeling spacey, like I had no body. I could clearly see the auras of those around me. Our bodies were made of light! I looked to the mountain and there just above the tree line was a ship with a red light. The mountain line consisted of two small peaks with small valleys between. The ship slowly, silently moved from hovering in one valley to behind the peak to come out in the next valley. The ship was as close as was the mountain ridge against the sky. You could see the tips of individual pines in the silhouette. It just sat there hovering. Sometimes the red light would turn off and then on again. 



Of all that I saw with this ship, what impressed me the most was the silence. We were silent and the ship was silent. You could breathe in the silence. It was all consuming even though the harp struck cords and the drummers held a steady heartbeat. This ship, so close that if you ran quickly you could be at the top of the ridge and standing beneath it in no time. It stayed with us for maybe half an hour. 



The next day Frank left and I cried when he went. I felt I would never see this new father of mine again. We talked on the phone a few times later. He went on to do work in Europe. Germany, I think. At least that is what I have found on the internet. After he left I spent the next three days collapsed in bed. ]]> Arrowwind09 http://www.natmedtalk.com/blogs/arrowwind09/20-ships-part-4.html http://www.natmedtalk.com/blogs/arrowwind09/19-ships-part-3.html Tue, 12 May 2009 13:24:43 GMT Ok, so we watched these for a while and then they seemed to disappear but only to be replaced by another phenomena. Suddenly we started to see these... Ok, so we watched these for a while and then they seemed to disappear but only to be replaced by another phenomena. Suddenly we started to see these same 4 pointed star shapes shoot across the sky. They came from behind us on the right where our vision was blocked by the mountainous landscape, bolting out into sky and across the valley to the far side of Espanola in the east.. When it seemed that they reached the Taos Mountains they moved from the south of our field of vision to the north along the mountain line. 
How many times did this occur? Many. Perhaps 10 or 15 times with individual 4 pointed lights. 



When the lights reached the opposite side of the valley in the east they moved along the mountain line ridge. Sometimes they would just hover there just above the mountain. Sometimes one light would move right up to another, stay a while then move away again. 

When they were on our side of the valley they all appeared as 4 pointed lights. 



Helios said that they were Merkaba, a type of craft that contains high level conscious beings and they were putting on a particularly good show for us tonight. 



So then the rational mind starts to get ancy. You’d been hanging out in altered state now for a while and rational mind wants to butt in. What could they be? Los Alamos was not far away. Could it be something to do with them? Some kind of craft they have? The mind really starts to chatter and get demanding. Helios says he had seen this before in other places. He went on to say that he had been seeing ships since he was 12 years old. Now, at 25, he had developed a rapport and he could ask them to come. It was, as far as he knew, his life’s work and mission to take people to see the ship. 


My mind went on for a while, thinking insanity was about to consume me. Helios put his arm around my shoulder and said it was all right. They had all been through it. The mind is defensive and wants to hold onto its own beloved version of reality. Now it would have to change. It was like birthing pain. Soon the anguish would be over and a new life experienced.

It was a tumultuous time. My life had once again become filled with radiant faces with laughing eyes. Living in Santa Fe was more than I had anticipated. Much more electric than Taos. Taos is West on the wheel. Earth, slow, cyclic, deep in mystery, death, rebirth. Ancestors calling. 



Santa Fe is the Sun, East, Illumination, revelation, transformation, and experimentation, new science. Merging science. Running at the speed of light those gather there who are attracted to the energy. Who are willing to ride the highest levels of repatterning, reprogramming, and transformation. Place of the Star People. 



I didn’t see Helios or his crew for a while. I had to work night shifts and was pretty occupied in my new home and with clearing up karma from my past experiences in Kansas City. 



I had become close with a man there named Ron. It was a very difficult relationship for me. He was very creative and energetic in spite of the Multiple Sclerosis. Our attraction was magnetic and very physical and before long we were living together despite my better judgment. I will not go into the details of this relationship as it is highly personal but some interesting things did come out of it that I will explain. 



I spent several months trying to leave him. It was one of the most difficult changes I have ever made. No matter what I did or said he would find a way to bind me in closer. He had a lot of emotional stuff and he used it to gain favor and sympathy. More than once he found me on my way out the door and before the night was over we would be embraced in passion. 



Because I had originally gone to Kansas City to look at the possibility of entering the ministry school of Unity Church I got to meet some interesting people. One young couple that lived not far from me became very supportive in my endeavor to comprehend this relationship and eventually to get away from it. Sara and Rich had provided me refuge when I couldn’t take it. They had counseled when I repeatedly failed to leave. One day Sara said to me. “You know, you make too much out of it. Just walk out the door and don’t look back.” 



Finally one day I had gotten my car fully packed with all my stuff. This was it. I was out of there. But I had to do it in a way that blinded him the best I could. I had this vulnerability to him I could not seem to get a grip on and I knew I must prepare in a way that he didn’t suspect, where my strength, what little I had, did not succumb again. 



He knew my car was packed and ready to go but once again he directed his emotional hooks towards me, doing the same seductions that had worked so well previously. This time it would not. With my failed attempt to leave just the night before I awoke with a renewed commitment to my freedom. 



As usual the Sunday paper lied just outside the door down the staircase to our second story apartment over the old farmhouse. This time, with my slippers on, unwashed, uncombed, I picked up Max, my beautiful pink with cat with turquoise eyes that Ron had given me, and walked down the stairs for the paper with but with my car keys in my hand also. I closed the door behind me and never opened it again. 



A few short hours later I was on the highway heading for Santa Fe with visions of ships in my head. 



Now in Santa Fe, I was safe and creating a new life. To be fair to Ron, I had written him a letter to let him know I was OK and to leave a door open to tie up any unresolved issues.

Finally, Helios called me. He had people he wanted me to meet. We went down to a small town south of Albuquerque to meet with some one who was into sacred geometry. On this trip I was exposed to the teachings in the book, the Keys of Enoch. It was about space ships, at least part of it was, and to Helios it was like his bible. Sacred geometry, root language, ships, ascension teachings, Mayan calendar, keys to many sacred teachings. 

 ]]> Arrowwind09 http://www.natmedtalk.com/blogs/arrowwind09/19-ships-part-3.html http://www.natmedtalk.com/blogs/arrowwind09/17-ships-part-1.html Tue, 12 May 2009 13:13:15 GMT *Due to just a hint of interest in such matters I decided to post this to my blog. I mainly wrote it for my children....and then for myself so that I... Due to just a hint of interest in such matters I decided to post this to my blog. I mainly wrote it for my children....and then for myself so that I would not loose memory...so I would not come to think of myself as too crazy. These things did happen...

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Well, Kathleen, you bring up an interesting concept.

Are those who see UFO's more spiritual or at least more sensitive, you ask?

In my attempt to answer this question a whole new Pandora’s box is exposed. Fortunately the box has been long opened. Just not that many people look into it.

The answer to your question is both yes and no.

To see a UFO, and lets get exact here. To see an extra terrestrial ship is a rare and precious experience. It is not available to everyone.

I think that there are reasons this is experienced by some and reasons not for others. They are outside of our conscious control for the most part. You either call it in on a soul level or you are taken in. Those that would take you in against your will are not your friends.


The ships have been coming here for a long time. They have a purpose and a mission. There are also more than one type of ship that comes. That is, more that one type of civilization is represented in the ships that have been seen.

I can only speak out of my direct experience and then relay the experience of others whom I have gone through the sightings with and what they have told me about their experience..

I have never written out my story so maybe this is a good time. I will write it as I tell it to you.

In my own spiritual evolution I came to see that there are groups of people on this plant who exist in alternate realities yet simultaneously with all other people. They co-exist yet have a very different experience of reality and how events occur. I could and will say that there are multiple groups who live an alternate reality with in the same reality, at least physically as all other people, I have been associated with one group to my knowledge and can only experience and relate from that point of view. But I have perceived other groups on the fringe of my reality. We interconnect at times to share systems of belief and knowledge.

Within this group I associated were people who hold as a core belief that they are on a soul journey. They have opened their senses to the beyond. They work from intuition and strictly for the advancement of conscious evolution of their own soul and the group soul of humanity. They understand that their soul is a member of a group soul that is evolving in unison. They clearly see the folly of the materialists and the ecological disasters in the making. They understand the nature of the world as a environment for learning. They view all people on a path of spiritual evolution yet they see that the materialists are in a different place of learning than they are but they are still connected because the leaning curve is very close and movement from one group to another is frequent.

These people congregate in various locations across the USA and in all countries. The have no unifying identity. That is, they hold no common religion, organization or other bonding social structure except a knowing of the soul journey and the intuition to create experience to enhance this process. They are open psychically. Intuition rules their behavior for the most part but most are quite educated in either life experience or in actual arts or sciences either western or shamanistic.

When these people are together, interacting in daily activity, soul evolution is faster and the gifts are amplified. Gifts of intuition, manifestation, healing, and communication occur on multiple levels and more rapidly. This is why they like to be together but they are not always together. They move in and out of this expanded reality and frequently go back into conventional reality, where most people dwell. They are not separated from conventional reality but dwell within it, yet maintain a separate reality enevloped in a consciousness that defines a "separate reality." There are a percentage of these people that always remain in this protected psychic space and live their whole lives in this context. I was not destined to be one of them.

I was introduced to this way many years ago. A few years after dwelling in this altered reality it was made clear to me that I would not have the opportunity to stay within this field of protection and growth forever. It was clear to me that I would move in and out of it through the course of my life. This has been very sad for me at times because I am most happy and at peace when I get to associate with like minds/souls in a daily social context. The core and most fundamental teaching within this paradigm is Freedom. You might think that it would be love or developing a loving consciousness and this is a most important element, but freedom is paramount. No learning, no experience is available without the free choice of the individual. Dogmas do not last long amongst such individual people who are bound by purpose and intent of conscious evolution. Yet dogmas at times create frameworks of experience, that are changed periodically, like old shoes that are worn out or no longer fit, and are tossed aside.

That which made it clear to me that I would be one to move in and out of this reality was my own self, from my intuition on a soul level. I had soul work to do outside of the protective bubble. This was very difficult at first. There were times when I struggled to maintain memory of who I am and those experiences that afforded to me a broadened perception of reality.

I am trying to think of books out there that will make this more clear to you. The Teachings of Don Juan are a perfect example. But do not be swayed by the use of drugs. Drugs have no place in this reality. Castaneda used drugs because he was incapable of getting there without. Once he had a glimpse the drugs had to go. And so it is with those who ventured into this realm of alternate realities on a high.

The use of drugs was common place in the 60's and 70's to get a glimpse and it did work for some. Today people use drugs for sexual promiscuity or to go unconscious. It is a sad thing. This is occurring because the planetary energy has shifted out of the vibrational context that occurred the 60's and 70's that lead many people into the love consciousness of 1969. What you see on television representing this era is merely a media portrayal and is narrow, exclusive and without broad depth in understanding as to what was going on at that time spiritually for the youth in certain parts of the world.

Perhaps a better example is the book “The Celestine Prophecy”. Yes, this book is a better example. Or you may want to read the series of books called "The Teachings Of The Masters of the Far East" to understand better that which words are hard to come by for me.

I would clarify here that people within this group do associate at times within specific groups with a material identity, such as say, followers of Don Juan or Paramahansa Yoganada, or Ernest Holmes, or Dahli Lama, or Mother Theresa, Babaji and a multitude of others from various religions including Christian, Jewish and other cults around the world. There are many groups of this nature but after a time of training in these groups one sees that they are just part of a larger group of soul expansionists that have no formal identity at this time. They are all training ground. Schools. Eventually graduation comes, either in this life or another.

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So, how did I come to see these space ships? And what does all of the above have to do with it? Kathleen, my mentor for old age, a wisened elder of 84 years, a respected story teller, now my confident and companion in hearth and home would be my springboard for recollection of what had happened years ago.

We stoke the fire, hold back the night with our light, as Valdez, valley of the witches below, sends up its darkness across the Arroyo Seco ridge. Kathleen is the light bearer in these parts of Taos and tonight she will hear my story and hold my mirror so that I may see myself and where I have been and yet may go. ]]> Arrowwind09 http://www.natmedtalk.com/blogs/arrowwind09/17-ships-part-1.html http://www.natmedtalk.com/blogs/kevin/16-15-000-posts.html Tue, 05 May 2009 18:26:39 GMT 'just me' posted the 15,000th post today.

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]]> Kevin http://www.natmedtalk.com/blogs/kevin/15-forum-stats-apr-18th-2009.html http://www.natmedtalk.com/blogs/bensimo/14-my-investigation-mms.html Fri, 02 Jan 2009 14:16:31 GMT I have been investigating how to get healthy ever since my wife contracted cancer in 1990 and I had to admit I was only worth moral support. So I... I have been investigating how to get healthy ever since my wife contracted cancer in 1990 and I had to admit I was only worth moral support. So I have since done many, many hours of investigation. This is what I have learned lately.

Jim Humble's MMS may be a cure for most diseases because diseased tissue is almost always a mold, fungus, bacteria, etc that can only exist in an oxygen deficient environment.

"When normally alkaline tissue doesn’t have enough oxygen (i.e., negative ions, free electrons, energy), it becomes diseased as cells die off, just like we will when we don’t get enough oxygen. The fundamental problem that we face when the body chemistry gets out of balance (and low on oxygen in certain areas), is the over abundance of organisms that congregate in those areas, which don’t require oxygen (since the normally oxygen-rich environment is depleted), and in turn produce acidic waste by-products. Chlorine dioxide, as delivered through the MMS protocol, reduces that microbial and antigen overgrowth through oxidation. It’s also important to introduce the various vitamin, mineral, enzyme, bacterial, and amino acids, the depletion of which brought on the overgrowth in the first place."

MMS is very reactive and provides a blast of oxygen very fast to cells causing diseased tissue to die off, sometimes very rapidly. Humble does not sell MMS, but has told anyone how to make it. There are suppliers listed at his website.

Best explanation I have read includes why MMS is totally safe w/o side effects. If nausea occurs, it is a good sign, a herxheimer effect of the body sloughing off diseased tissue so fast that it overloads and causes nausea and/or vomiting.
MMS Australia |What A Retired ND has to say about Miracle Mineral Supplement |

Here is another excellent written explanation that includes a video
Alternative Medicine Network » MMS (Chlorine Dioxide)

Free download of part one of Humble's book, part two isn't necessary unless you want to make your own. Part one is Humble's entire story of how he developed MMS and how he and others have used it.
Miracle Mineral

Using MMS on eyes while also drinking it to overcome Macular Degeneration
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11. MMS & Eyes:
I mention it in my book about using in the eyes. I would suggest making a 2 drops dose, using the citric acid (not lemon juice), wait 3 minutes, add 1/3 glass of water, and use that to wash the eye out twice a day, but after 3 minutes then wash the eye out with clean water or eye wash."

Several people on the Internet have good nutritious items for macular degeneration. I'd follow the wash in the above paragraph and then after one week only do it once a day and go to the Internet and find one of those macular degeneration nutrition's and take it to make sure you can rebuild your eye. You should also be taking MMS by mouth."
MMS FAQ's Miracle Mineral Supplement

"It is now known that MMS can be used to overcome the symptoms of AIDS, Hepatitis A,B&C, malaria, typhoid, most cancers, herpes, pneumonia, food poisoning, tuberculosis, asthma, colds, flu and a host of other conditions. Even conditions not directly related to pathogens seem to be helped due to the huge boost to the body's immune system, i.e., macular degeneration, allergies, lupus, inflammatory bowel disorders, diabetes, snake bites and fibromyalgia. Dozens of other diseases were successfully treated and can be controlled with this new mineral supplement. It also works with sore throats, warts, mouth sores, and even abscessed teeth (it's the only thing that controls and cures abscessed teeth)."
MMS Pacific MINERAL DIETARY SUPPLEMENT

Want more info on cancer and oxygen? There is a ton of info about oxygen and health on the internet. Here is one
Cancer and oxygen

Best regards, Ben
Author "Leading People to be Highly Motivated and Committed"
Leadership Skills - leadership development - building trust motivation commitment values leadership skill leadership theory ]]> bensimo http://www.natmedtalk.com/blogs/bensimo/14-my-investigation-mms.html