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Dr. Simoncini is not sending sodium bicarbonate through the GI. He is getting it close to the cancer as possible via IV.

Probiotics produce acid. It is the acid that kills the bad pathogens.

The point is, that you do not want to maintain an acidic environment or an alkaline environment. Your immune system will fight this. Each part of the body, including the blood system, have their own requirements for pH.
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There are plenty of alternative thinking docs out there that think sodium bicarb can kill cancer that is related to fungus and more specifically candida. See Dr Simoncini's work.
There are more studies on the use of IV ascorbic acid for cancer treatment than for sodium bicarbonate. Simoncini seems to be the lone pioneer.

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Quite a few people have cured their cancer with cesium chloride which raises the ph.
It has not worked for everyone through and cesium chloride is hard to take for some.

Sodium bicarb has had a long and obscure history for curing cancer and some other diseases. Verns story tells how he applied it for metastatic prostate cancer.

It seems that no one protocol cures all cancer but it has been long known that to alkalize for a time significantly helps the curative process. There are a number of ways to do this. Bicarb is only one but the most dramatic with least side effects.

https://phkillscancer.com/protocol

also remember that these ph protocols are administered with molasas. This sugar makes the cancer cell open up cause cancer loves sugar. It I assume would be advisiable to eat a very low carb diet during the protocol to make the cancer cell hungry. All carbs should come from green veggies... no pasta, no bread, no chips, no corn, no potatos.... anyone see an association on food preferecne here between cancer and candida?..... remember the old cancer cure of maple syrup and lemon juice? now lemon juice creates an alkaline state, the maple syrup opens the cancer cell up to take it in.... same process is used in IPT cancer treatments with pure glucose, taking the patient into a hypglycemic state, give glucose and small amts of chemo drug at same time.
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Dr Sircus and Sodium Bicarb and Cancer and Fungus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=

and regarding infections of the mouth. It obviously kills pathogens
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v==related


and for a hangover? soda doping?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v==related

and Doug Kaufman and Dr Simoncini
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=

Kaufman and Simoncini Part 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v==related

Melanoma cured with Iodine Tincture, the other cure for fungus and microbial disease
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v==related


and basal cell carcinoma cured with Lugol's iodine in this following video. Now Dr Simoncini told in his website that psoriasis is a fungal infection. I have sucessfully treated most of my psoriasis with lugols iodine. Part of it was cured with mega dosing of Vit D3. The very last spot on my knee is now gone but I had to get a Lugol's 15% solution for that, as the 5% just refused to move it. Dr Simoncini had proved to me that he is a truth speaker. If I had any internal form of cancer I would also be taking mega doses of lugol's iodine with what ever other therapy I was doing.
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Those videos were a waste of time in the question of pH therapy. They confirm my statement that sodium bicarbonate can kill cancer by osmotic shock, rather than the creation of an alkaline environment. And Simoncini also said that he had to get the sodium bicarbonate as close to the cancer as possible in the example of his cure of prostate cancer. That is what I indicated, when I said "Dr. Simoncini is not sending sodium bicarbonate through the GI. He is getting it close to the cancer as possible via IV." Just go to his site to see that he does as I said. Either IV or injection.

Even the videos on iodine did not indicate acid/alkaline environment. But note that iodine is an acid forming element. So are chlorine, phosphorus, carbon, sulfur, and hydrogen.
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Quite a few people have cured their cancer with cesium chloride which raises the ph.
It has not worked for everyone through and cesium chloride is hard to take for some.

Sodium bicarb has had a long and obscure history for curing cancer and some other diseases. Verns story tells how he applied it for metastatic prostate cancer.

It seems that no one protocol cures all cancer but it has been long known that to alkalize for a time significantly helps the curative process. There are a number of ways to do this. Bicarb is only one but the most dramatic with least side effects.

https://phkillscancer.com/protocol

also remember that these ph protocols are administered with molasas. This sugar makes the cancer cell open up cause cancer loves sugar. It I assume would be advisiable to eat a very low carb diet during the protocol to make the cancer cell hungry. All carbs should come from green veggies... no pasta, no bread, no chips, no corn, no potatos.... anyone see an association on food preferecne here between cancer and candida?..... remember the old cancer cure of maple syrup and lemon juice? now lemon juice creates an alkaline state, the maple syrup opens the cancer cell up to take it in.... same process is used in IPT cancer treatments with pure glucose, taking the patient into a hypglycemic state, give glucose and small amts of chemo drug at same time.
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Technically, the cesium chloride does not directly kill the cancer cells. What is does is allow the immune system to kill the cancer cells. When you see a statment that cesium chloride does not kill cancer cells, that is technically correct.

Cesium has been proven to get into cancer cells, when other nutrients cannot.

Makes the cancer cells alkaline (Note: the BLOOD is NOT made alkaline, only the inside of the cancer cells)

https://www.cancertutor.com/Cancer/Alkaline.html
Since it is required that cesium enter inside the cell, it is not that cesium is making the environment, where the cell survives, an alkaline environment.

In the case of molasses, it is the iron that cancer feed upon. Sugar is neither sugar nor alkaline, but it is acid forming. All bacteria feed on sugar, the good and the bad. But the theory would be to get the alkaline into the cell, not to produce an alkaline environment. Did Vernon cure his cancer, or is he still waiting on the cesium? Isn't a PSA test dubious?

Alkalosis is rare. Acidosis is rare. There is a reason for that.

I stand by my position, "The point is, that you do not want to maintain an acidic environment or an alkaline environment. Your immune system will fight this. Each part of the body, including the blood system, have their own requirements for pH."
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No. The iodine videos do not indicate anything about PH but there is a strong indication about microbes. I have also read testimonials of of iodine, and only iodine curing breast cancer. Iodine's main active function is against microbes. That will change before the thyroid or anything else in iodine application.

Vernon's testimonial with sodium bicarb, as well as others who have cured cancer with cesium chloride indicate that cancer is very reactive to PH therapy.... now I would not venture to say all cancers, but certainly some. People have used and cured cance with PH therapy for a long long time. Dr Robert Days work is another example... as in the book The PH Miracle.... alkinalizing has been the drum beat of alternative cancer treatment for a long time, just how to do it has been the question. Green drinks, wheatgrass, frutarian diet, and on and on.. Some people have cured their cancer with all of these... figuring out which kind of cancers respond to what is essential. Dr Simoncini says bicarb for cancers with a fungal component. ..... I have been trying to track it down but I heard that he said that oral applications may be all that is required for some cancers...

Getting the bicarb in direct contact with the tumor will afford the most alkaline environment for that tissue possible and if the tumor is thick and massive this may be required for efficient and quick treatment. But if the cancer is smaller or not of a solid nature it may not be required. Vernon removed all the cancer from his bones by using bicarb, and in just about 3 weeks....cant beat that and he did it orally, as his cancer was difuse and not likely in solid tumor form, the only method of attack would be through the blood stream as there is no foci to inject the bicarb into.

Now the Hoxey formula as several herbs that are known for their detox ability and anticancer properties, but when over the course of time somehow the iodine got dropped from the forumula it did not work as well and the hoxey reputation started to go down. Hoxey must have the Lugols iodine in it to stand a chance of working.. of course we all know the great rep. Hoxey had for curing a alot of (but not all) cancers. Iodine has a strong antimicrobial action, aside from boosting thyroid function. I will kill microbes before the thyroid ever has a chance to get up to par with its use.

Now if psoriasis is a fungus and iodine cured it for me that is compelling circumstancial evidience. Simoncini says psoriasis is not to unlike cancer, just not malignant in the same way. I've been battling this crap for about 8 years and finally got it whipped. perhaps I will post my before and after photos.

Oxygen will also kill cancer as in the form of ozone. When acidosis is in tissues rectified by oxygen the ph has no where to go but up. Proper oxygenation, according to Warburg will prevent cancer. Fungus creates an acidic state. Perhaps fungus cannot survive in the presence of oxygen? I know that ozone can and does routinely cure vaginal fungal infections.

Vernon talks about the oxygen high during his bicarb treatment... I am trying to find out more about that expericence he claims.

Just trying to put all the pieces together

I am more convinced every day that most disease is cause by some kind of microbe and that the microbe invasion creates more of an acidic environment with perpetuates their replication and stronghold in the body. It they require acidic conditions to live and their actual presence helps to further create an acidic conditon then bicarb would naturally be part of the answer.

I do not necessarily think that an alkaline environmnet is necessary permanently. It is the shift that the offending microbe cannot adjust to fast enough so it perishes

I would also note that in some of Simoncini's cancer cases he uses a very high powered antifungal drugs by IV. He does not limit to just the use of bicarb.
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I am more convinced every day that most disease is cause by some kind of microbe and that the microbe invasion creates more of an acidic environment with perpetuates their replication and stronghold in the body. It they require acidic conditions to live and their actual presence helps to further create an acidic conditon then bicarb would naturally be part of the answer.
From Bill Sardi, refuting the Warburg Effect (acid/alkaline therapy):

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But it wasn’t just conventional medicine that got side-tracked by Warburg’s discovery. In "the Warburg Effect," tumor cells expel lactic acid as a by-product, and this later became known as the alkalinity-acidity theory of cancer promoted by many pseudo-scientists. This spawned a number of books that mistakenly advocated an alkaline diet would cure or prevent cancer. Actually, cancer cells are a bit more acid immediately outside their boundaries than inside due to the expelling of lactic acid.

The pursuit of a state of alkalinity appears to be nonsensical. Not only does the absence of acidity in the gastric tract and bladder establish an environment that is conducive to tumor growth, the control of blood pH (alkalinity/acidity) is automatically controlled in a neutral pH range (7.2–7.4). The diet has little influence over the pH of the blood.

In 1987 an experiment was conducted where the effects of alkalinity or acidity were examined in bladder cancer. Animals were fed a diet that was somewhat acidic, mildly alkaline or more alkaline. Bladder tumors occurred in 39% of the acidic group, 65% of the alkaline group and 71% of the more alkaline group.

Many alternative medical practitioners inexplicably recommend acid-forming supplements (Lactobacillus acidophilus) for cancer patients, yet they contrarily suggest an alkaline diet. An experiment conducted in 1980 showed that the provision of acid-forming bacteria (Lactobacillus acidophilus) reduced chemically-induced colon cancer in animals from 77% to 40%. Enough said about misdirection since Warburg’s discovery.

https://www.lewrockwell.com/sardi/sardi141.html
Farther down the page, on that link, has interesting research in cancer. That can be addressed in the cancer forum, instead of this pH therapy suggestion.

I agree with him that it is nonsensical to try to alter the body's pH. https://dwb4.unl.edu/Chem/CHEM869R/CH...b/control.html

Here is that 1987 study. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3609975
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In the case of molasses, it is the iron that cancer feed upon. Sugar is neither sugar nor alkaline, but it is acid forming. All bacteria feed on sugar, the good and the bad. But the theory would be to get the alkaline into the cell, not to produce an alkaline environment. Did Vernon cure his cancer, or is he still waiting on the cesium? Isn't a PSA test dubious?
it is well known in alternative cancer treatment that cancer cells are very hungry for sugar, in what ever form it starts from, alchohol, carbohydrates, regular table sugar, refined IV glucose. In IPT therapy (have you studied up on that?) and other some cancer therapies the cancers are starved of sugar by limiting it from the diet, sometimes taking the patient to a significant hypoglyceminc state. When the sugar is given IV or orally the cancer cells willingly and quickly open their cells for it. This is the opportune time to deliver the chemo agent, whether natural or pharmaceutical. Sugar certainly is acid forming and it is what the cancer cell likes most to feed upon.... probably the iron in molasses is an added benefit, prompting the cancer cell even more... but it is not generally used when doctors are trying to trick the cancer cell to open and be receptive.

All alternative therapies require that you stop taking in sugar and refined carbs.

Did you not read Vernon's story? Vernon has had his cure confirmed with all kinds of tests, including bone scans to assess the mets he had into his bones. All mets are gone, as is the prostate cancer in the prostate. I think he is a couple of years down the road now and doing well.

The theory is not necessarily to get the alkaline into the cell. I have read no such theory anywhere. The body has the ability to maintain a PH of approx 7.35 to 7.45 no matter how adverse the conditions, even if you drink diet coke all day., diet coke being one of the most acidic foods known to man.... But your ph on your urine and your saliva will be very acidic, much more acidic than the blood PH. People who endeavor to become more alkaline strive to change the ph of urine and salavia, not blood. To bring the ph of blood to an 8 or above as Vernon did with his urine and salavia would likely be a death sentence or at minimum a emergency hospitalization. Obviously he did not do that - seizures, coma, death result.

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Alkalosis is rare. Acidosis is rare. There is a reason for that.
I certainly realize that. Acidosis is much much more common and is treated in hospital by sodium bicarb. Sodium bicarb therapy for cancer treatment does not have the goal of bringing the blood to PH of 8 or 8.5. I have never seen anyone test for this or monitor it in their own therapies.

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I stand by my position, "The point is, that you do not want to maintain an acidic environment or an alkaline environment. Your immune system will fight this. Each part of the body, including the blood system, have their own requirements for pH."
Please stand by your position and I will stand by mine It will challenge people to think about it.
The fact of the matter is that when people do alkalizing therapies the ph in their urine and their salavia changes and for some reason this affords to create an environment that is beneficial to their health and I have not read anywhere that show that these mechinisms are understood. Improved health may have absolutley nothing to do with blood PH, and obivously is doesn't as we know the serious consequences of making the blood too alakaline. Only under the most dire and extreme conditions does the blood shift out of its normal ph range. There are many complex mechinisms that keep it in range. Obviously those mechinisms do not affect urine or saliva and how and why that occurs we do not know. Nor do we understand exactly why bringing the body to a state where alkaline urine or salvia is present it is beneficial when confronting cancer.
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The theory is not necessarily to get the alkaline into the cell. I have read no such theory anywhere. The body has the ability to maintain a PH of approx 7.35 to 7.45 no matter how adverse the conditions, even if you drink diet coke all day., diet coke being one of the most acidic foods known to man.... But your ph on your urine and your saliva will be very acidic, much more acidic than the blood PH. People who endeavor to become more alkaline strive to change the ph of urine and salavia, not blood. To bring the ph of blood to an 8 or above as Vernon did with his urine and salavia would likely be a death sentence or at minimum a emergency hospitalization. Obviously he did not do that - seizures, coma, death result.
You allude to this theory yourself, whether you understand it or not. I've already said that cesium works by getting the alkaline into the inside of the cancer cell, not the surrounding area as Vernon is trying to do with the bicarb. You also said that sugar is used in all these pH therapies to "open" the cells. Why would you say that? Why would the cells need to be opened? To get the alkalinity into the cells, to weaken them for the immune system to be able to do its work to kill the cells.

If, as you seem to agree, the body adjusts the pH, how do you think oral sodium bicarb works? Unless you have low stomach acid, the bicarb would be neutralized before it gets to the rest of the GI. That is why Simoncini has the right idea to get it directly to the cancer by bypassing that digestive system. And it needs to be there long enough for the cells to have time to feed off of the body's sugar.
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Did you not read Vernon's story? Vernon has had his cure confirmed with all kinds of tests, including bone scans to assess the mets he had into his bones. All mets are gone, as is the prostate cancer in the prostate. I think he is a couple of years down the road now and doing well.
Yes I did. He said, "PS: Where is the Cesium? It finally showed up around 11 June 2008. Will I take it? Yes, in a heartbeat. When? When I decide! And I decided to a few weeks later, but that is just a part of this continuing story."

And yet later, at the end of his 'dance' story, he says, "
Well, like I mentioned earlier, the cesium got lost in the mail. Most people would think that sucked, but not me. It was another rainbow miracle because it opened the door for baking soda to get itself busy alkalizing my body." Making his story hard to follow.

Pre-treatment PSA was 22 but has decreased to 5.88 after institution of Finasteride and Casodex. So it was already at 5.88 when he started the bicarb? Did it continue to fall after the Finasteride and Casodex? He did not measure the PSA prior to the bicarb protocol. Apparently not. That would be good to know. Since the doctors waited from March to June to test, I assume they thought it would take that long for those 2 drugs to work. Meaning the PSA was probably still falling by June.

Don't get me wrong here. I'm very glad he got his PSA to 0.1.

I'd like to hear from others in this same situation while using bicarb.

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I'd like to hear from others in this same situation while using bicarb.

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It is my understanding that Vern never did use cesium.

Here is another story of cancer cure with bicarb.

https://phkillscancer.com/baking-soda...tocol-and-more

DJP�s Cancer Baking Soda Protocol, Breathing Protocol and More


Here is Donald J Porter�s Cancer Baking Soda Protocol he sent me. He used it to take on cancer and reclaim his health. You can see his introduction to this protocol at https://phkillscancer.com/baking-soda/another-success-story-using-baking-soda-and-much-much-more Don also expressed the importance of Breathing, Alkaline Diet, and Exercise. He included the vitamins, minerals, and special foods took during his return to health protocol. Here it is:
DJP Protocol � This has worked for me since 4-07 !
I am not providing medical advice, simply �revealing my experiences & protocol�, resulting in a sharp drop, to 0.1PSA, for 10 mos. (thru VA blood tests), to 7-2010, & no discomfort, etc. I did �NO� Chemo, Radiation, Minimum Drugs (I consider them deadly to our immune systems)
2 � years work refined to � 2 pages

Here is my Protocol � Avoid any forms of sugar for a month+. Then Inititate as follows:
  • 1st day- 1 Teaspoon of BS soda with 2 Teaspoons of Black Strap molasses (�BSM�) & 1 cup room temp water 2x day (away from meals). Heat @ �LOW� temp for 5 min. & STIR a lot to fully combine your sugar & BS into �YOUR Trojan Horse� to benefit your body/immune system. The molasses/maple syrup targets cancer cells (which consume 15X more glucose than normal cells) & the baking soda, (which is dragged into the cancer cell by the maple syrup/BSM), being very alkaline, forces a rapid shift in pH thereby killing the cancer cells fairly quickly (24-48 hrs).
  • 2nd day � repeat, also Do Deep breathing (30x � 3-10x day or more). OXYGEN KILLS cancer cells
  • 3rd day � same Cancer cells gobble up SUGAR so when you encourage the intake of sugar it�s like sending in �your own Trojan horse�. The sugar is �not� going to encourage the growth of the cancer colonies as the alkaline baking soda is going to kill the cells before they have a chance to grow.
  • 4th day � same 2X day goal get to 8.0 � 8.5 pH & hold 4-5 days & result cancer cells dormant at pH 7.0-7.5+ or a few tenths, & kills cancer cells @ 8.0-8.5. My pH measured 8.3 on 3rd day with a blood & urine test. Eating figs, apricots, dates, raisins, goji berries-potassium.
  • 5th day � started taking the solution � 2 tspns BS & 2 Tsps BSM 2X day
  • 6th day� reeat 2 Tspns BS & 2 Tspn of BSM & 1 cup of water 2x a day. My pH measured 8.25. That is what happens with cesium chloride/BS done by Italian Dr. Simoncini, mild nausea is good as it means the dead cancer cells are being dicarded by your body.
  • 7th � All ok � lips tingled : an Oxygen Euphoria from a lot deep breathing. Oxygen assists in killing bone cancer! Also on day 7, increased BS to 3 Tspns. & got a slight headache, backed off to 2 Tspns BS- I was a bit uncomfortable/nervous & had a slight headache, so I reduced it. I had slight confusion. Do 30+ DEEP breaths several times per day � VERY IMPORTANT !
  • 8th day � double dose 3x a day to get pH high- could some be health issues with too much BS. Potassium (200+mg intake is IMPORTANT). FILTERED water !! Excercise
  • 9th day � A little diarrhea, a little weak feeling, really began to up my potassium intake. All experts said that high dosage of potassium (also with cesium chloride) is very important Oxygenation euphoria all day from deep breathing. Ok KILLING cancer cells more important !
  • 10th day � Headache more persistent ,body sweats SO- I cut back to a solution 2x a day; not 3x.
  • 11th day � down to 1.5 Tspns to control headache, bit of loose stools, slight headache & night sweats. I cut back felt overloaded- 8.35 goal achieved & I wanted to maintain pH 8.0+ for 4-5 days.
  • NOTE: Key Points: Take BS solution 2 hrs before or 2 hrs after eating, to give stomach acids time to digest food. Eat HIGH potassium organic foods, SUPPLEMENTS, vitamins, minerals, & herbs as recommended for Cesium Therapy by others with noted successes .
Coral Calcium 3000 mg
Vit D3 10,000 iu�s, PawPaw
CoQ10-200 mg, Tumeric
Astrogus
Potassium 200 mg,
Milk Thistle 1000 mg
Astaxanthin
Aloe Liq. & Caps
Sun Chlorella
ApricotSeeds-B17
  • Seek to maintain Organic Diet � 80% Alkaline & 20% Acidic for 1+ week after BS protocol.
  • Eat ALL organic food to let your Immune System rebuild from preservatives & MANY harmful chemicals etc, in packaged foods! Eat brown rice, oats, beans & lots of GREEN veggies & some fruits
  • Lots of room temp filtered water & Green teas- Kukicha, Bancha, Dandelion Root & Rooibos.
  • The healthiest foods you can eat are vegetables, fruits, nuts & seeds, beans, lean meats, quality fish.
Be good to your immune system � It WILL be good to you with � ORGANIC Food!
Human blood pH should be slightly alkaline (7.35 � 7.45). A pH of 7.0 is neutral. A pH below 7.0 is acidic. A pH above 7.0 is alkaline. Easy- Eating Most acidic foods� Beer/Wine/Liquor, Drugs, Dairy/Butter, Sugars, Sodas, Table Salt, Pork/Bacon/Poultry/Beef, easy on fish & related, clams-muscles-lobster, etc.
No or minimum, designed-chemically created-taste enhanced-preservatives laced, addictive packaged foods

Baking Soda �Molasses also done with success by others:
  • Jim Kelmun 75, (truck driver), treated 200+ terminal cancer sufferers, 185 lived @ least 15 years. Jim has been threatened with jail by authorities unless he stops administering his remedy � as he has no medical degree! Jim�s Remedy � Maple Syrup & BS (Bicarbonate of soda).
  • Take 2 tspns of mix per day 1st week, 1 tspn per day for 2 weeks. Stop Remedy after 3 weeks
  • Mix 1 part BS to 1-3 parts molasses. Heat LOW HEAT, stir rigorously in a pan for 5 min.
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and in this article the author talks with one of Jim Kelmun's patients who was cured with maple syrup and sodium bicarb. When this info was relayed to Dr Sircus thats when Sircus started his own investigations.

https://www.beating-cancer-gently.com/nl118.html

CANCER-FREE Newsletter
March 12th, 2008



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What?? Baking Soda and Maple Syrup??




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What?? Baking Soda and Maple Syrup??
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Remember Dr. Tullio Simoncini and his treatment of cancer as a fungus? If not, you can reread an article called "Cancer Is A Fungus" in my August 2, 2007 newsletter. It's at:
www.Beating-Cancer-Gently.com/nl108.html

If you recall, I quoted several holistic physicians in that article including Dr. Mark Sircus. I interviewed Dr. Sircus for my web talk radio show a couple of weeks ago. We got to comparing notes. It seems we had both received a copy of the same magazine article from one of my readers. The article was entitled "Country Doctor Cures Cancer -- With Baking Soda & Maple Syrup!" There was no date on the article, but it was a syndicated article from Weekly World News written by George Sanford. The location (of all places) was Asheville, North Carolina, where I live.

The story told of Jim Kelmun, a 75-year old former truck driver and his success in helping people heal cancer using -- you guessed it -- baking soda and maple syrup. Seein' as how I'm a 76-year old former airplane driver who has helped a couple thousand people recover from cancer, I figured ol' Jim from Asheville and I had a lot in common and I better pass on his story (and Dr. Mark's reaction to it) to you, my loyal readers, and see what you think.

First, here's a short quote from the story, so you get the drift.
"'There's not a tumor on God's green Earth that can't be licked with a little baking soda and maple syrup!'
That's the astonishing claim of controversial folk healer Jim Kelmun -- who says his simple home remedy can stop and reverse the growth of deadly cancers.
[Kelmun]...has no medical degree and authorities are demanding that he stop dispensing his 'wonder drug' -- or face a prison sentence.
But his loyal patients swear by the man they fondly call 'Dr. Jim' -- and say he's a miracle worker.
'Dr Jim cured me of lung cancer,' declares farmer Ian Rodhouse, 64. 'Those other doctors told me I was a goner ahd had less than six months to live.'
'But the doc put me on his mixture -- and in a couple of months, the cancer was gone. It didn't even show up on X-rays.'
The gentle, silver-haired grandfather -- who has been preparing home remedies since 1954 -- says he first hit upon the miracle cure in the mid-1970's, when he was treating a family plagued by breast cancer.
'There were five sisters in the family and all of them passed away from the big C by age 50 -- except one,' he recalls.
'I asked if there was anything different in her diet. She told me she was partial to sipping maple syrup and baking soda.
'I figured, let me try it out on some of my other patients.'
Since then, 'Dr. Jim' has dispensed his mixture to more than 200 patients diagnosed with terminal cancer. Amazingly, he claims that of that number, 185 lived at least 15 more years -- and nearly half enjoyed a complete remission of their disease."


Well, you get the idea. When Dr. Sircus and I discussed this subject, it was obvious that the "goofy" article on "Dr. Jim" had made him put on his thinking cap (which is quite well worn -- Dr. Mark is one of the "thinkingest" docs I know). In fact, he sent me an article he had written on the subject that should interest any of you "battling" cancer.

You may recall that Dr. Sircus has a regimen for treating cancer which includes magnesium chloride, iodine, selenium and alpha lipoic acid. After reading of Dr. Simoncini's work, he added baking soda to his regimen. But even Dr. Simoncini recognized the limitations of his own baking soda treatment.

Here's a quote from Dr. Simoncini:
"The therapeutic treatment of bicarbonate salts [baking soda] can be administered orally, through aerosol, intravenously and through catheter for direct targeting of tumors...[but it] can achieve positive results only in some tumors, while others - such as the serious ones of the brain or the bones - remain unaffected by the treatment."

Dr. Mark's thinking led him to an interesting hypothesis. What if, he said, baking soda and maple syrup worked just like IPT (Insulin Potentiated Therapy)? Here are some quotes from his article:

"IPT treatment consists of giving doses of insulin to a fasting patient sufficient to lower blood sugar into the 50 mg/dl. Then they inject lower doses of toxic chemo drugs [when the cancer cell] receptors are more sensitive and take on medications more rapidly and in higher amounts.
The bicarbonate/maple syrup treatment works in reverse to IPT. Dr. Tullio Simoncini acknowledges that cancer cells gobble up sugar so when you encourage the intake of sugar it's like sending in a Trojan horse. The sugar is not going to encourage the growth of the cancer colonies because the baking soda is going to kill the cells before they have a chance to grow.

The treatment is a combination of pure, 100% maple syrup [bulk Grade B from the health food store] and baking soda and was first reported on the Cancer Tutor site. When mixed and heated together, the maple syrup and baking soda bind together. The maple syrup targets cancer cells (which consume 15 times more glucose than normal cells) and the baking soda, which is dragged into the cancer cell by the maple syrup, being very alkaline forces a rapid shift in pH killing the cell.
The actual formula is to mix one part baking soda with three parts (pure, 100%) maple syrup in a small saucepan. Stir briskly and heat the mixture for 5 minutes. Take one teaspoon daily is what is suggested by Cancer Tutor but one could probably do this several times a day."


In summary, Dr. Sircus says:
"The maple syrup apparently enables and increases penetration of bicarbonate into all compartments of the body, even those which are difficult or impossible to penetrate by other means. These compartments include the central nervous system (CNS), through the blood-brain barrier, joints, solid tumors, and perhaps even the eyes. IPT makes cell membranes more permeable, and increases uptake of drugs into cells. The maple syrup will make tissues more permeable, too. It will transport the bicarbonate across the blood-brain barrier and every other barrier in the body for sugar is universally needed by all cells in the body...Both IPT and bicarbonate/maple syrup treatments use the rabid growth mechanisms of cancer cells against them."

There you have it, folks. Can you imagine this mixture harming you? Two or three teaspoons a day? Would I try it? You bet. It meets all my criteria: simple, effective, inexpensive and available anywhere in the world.
Incidentally, Dr. Sircus has moved baking soda/maple syrup up to Number Three in his regimen -- right behind magnesium chloride and iodine.
Thanks, Dr. Sircus, for your magnificently open mind and flexibility in applying your knowledge to new ideas. Well, according to Jim Kelmun, it's no new idea -- just another suppressed cancer treatment that works.
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This page offers an article by Dr Sircus regarding baking soda for cancer. Just scroll down and you will find it.

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There is something missing in this pseudo-science. Something overlooked. I do not believe it is the alkaline pH that is killing the cancer. I could understand that osmotic pressure, if bicarbonate is applied directly, could kill the cells. The salts formed are changing the osmotic pressure. Just neutralizing the acids is not going to do anything, as the cancer cells will just make more acid as they continue to ferment. But taking the bicarb orally doesn't make sense.

Let's say that someone ingests baking soda to try and cure their cancer. If they ingest it what does it come in to contact with? Stomach acid, which ends up forming sodium chloride (table salt) and carbon dioxide. Carbon dioxide mixed with water forms carbonic acid. Acid, acid, acid.

Maybe the alkaline boost is from the acid stimulating the release of bicarbonate from the pancreas. Since there is more bicarbonate released than there is acid there is an alkaline effect. But again, I still don't think the alkaline environment will kill the cancer. They are just lucky about something, but I can't figure it out.

Since lemon juice stimulates the release of large amounts of bicarbonate, why can't we just cure cancer by eating a lot of lemons? It would be safer than taking large doses of sodium bicarbonate.

Regarding IVs, injecting baking soda will neutralize some acids in the blood, but that will lead to the formation of carbonic acid. Let's say that the baking soda does make it to the cancer cells intact. Does it affect the cancer cells by neutralizing the lactic acid? I seriously doubt that. IF it works, the only way I can think if that it may have an effect against cancer cells is through that osmotic shift. In other words, the sudden increase in salinity outside the cells could draw moisture from the cancer cells causing them to dehydrate. Since they need water to transport glucose for food and they have a much higher metabolism than healthy cells, this could cause them to starve to death.

And if alkalinizing the body cures cancer then why does cesium chloride have such as low success rate? 50% may be good to hope for, but just flip a coin. Why can't we cure cancer by hyperventilating, which alkalinizes the body really fast? Why do people switching to an alkaline diet, when they find they have cancer, still die from the cancer? A lot of questions, but we are talking about pH as the ultimate cure. Right?
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